Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-jabley-dnsop-refuse-any-00.txt
Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Thu, 01 October 2015 14:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-jabley-dnsop-refuse-any-00.txt
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Shane Kerr wrote: > > > In the case where people just want to reduce the damage of ANY queries > in reflection attacks, I quite like the PowerDNS option of forcing ANY > queries to TCP via truncation. I'm not sure if this has been documented > in any RFC, but if not then perhaps it bears mentioning too? note that in a normal reflective ddos where a lot of ANY queries are being received, the above proposal results in a full TCP session table, thus denying TCP service to any non-attacker. this is not a serious problem since virtually anyone can launch a denial of service against TCP/53, without a distributed attack force. so, that problem already exists. if it's going to become a documented operational practice, then this risk should be documented also. -- Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-j… Ólafur Guðmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Evan Hunt
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ja… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ja… Evan Hunt
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ja… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ja… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ja… Dick Franks
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ja… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ja… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ja… Ólafur Guðmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ja… Evan Hunt
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ja… Dave Lawrence
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ja… Ólafur Guðmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ja… Mark Andrews