Re: [DNSOP] Terminology question: split DNS

George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> Mon, 19 March 2018 18:10 UTC

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From: George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:10:15 +0000
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Terminology question: split DNS
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"A DNS resolver which looks at the client requesting address, and uses
this to serve different versions of information about a zone based on
which client address or prefix requests it."

the concept of "side" is rather limited. split DNS can encompass more
than two sides can't it?

-George

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 5:47 PM, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> wrote:
> Some folks had reservations about the current definition of "split DNS":
>    "Where a corporate network serves up partly or completely different DNS
> inside and outside
>    its firewall. There are many possible variants on this; the basic point
> is that the
>    correspondence between a given FQDN (fully qualified domain name) and a
> given IPv4 address
>    is no longer universal and stable over long periods."
>    (Quoted from <xref target="RFC2775"/>, Section 3.8)
>
> What would the WG like for this definition?
>
> --Paul Hoffman
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