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Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Tue, 24 July 2018 17:35 UTC

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From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2018, Tim Wicinski wrote:

> We discussed this and there appears to be support to adopt this, with
> the caveat of fleshing out some of the discussions which came up.
> 
> 
> This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis
> 
> The draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis/

While I agree with the goal of the draft, to keep root server queries on
the local host, I don't like how it is suggesting to run a DNS server on
localhost:53, because that is going to cause problems with running
validating resolvers on the stub. There is already enough racy
conditions on systems with virtual machines and running dhcp/dns servers
for those that are racing to own 127.0.0.1:53

But again, having a well integrated method for slaving the root zone on
a local validating stub resolver is something that everyone should do
(along with query minimalization)

Paul

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