Re: [DNSOP] Paul Wouters' Yes on draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-16: (with COMMENT)

Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Sat, 30 December 2023 03:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Paul Wouters' Yes on draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-16: (with COMMENT)
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Paul Wouters via Datatracker wrote on 2023-12-29 11:37:
> Paul Wouters has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-16: Yes
> 
> 
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> COMMENT:
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> 
> 
>          ...
> 
> If what you want is "we really really want this but it cannot be done on every OS",
> then I think SHOULD instead of MUST is fine, but MAY seems too weak.

I agree.

> 
>          R7. UDP requestors MAY drop fragmented DNS/UDP responses without
>          IP reassembly to avoid cache poisoning attacks.
> 
>          R8. DNS responses may be dropped by IP fragmentation. Upon a
>          timeout, to avoid resolution failures, UDP requestors MAY retry
>          using TCP or UDP with a smaller EDNS requestor's maximum UDP
>          payload size per local policy.
> 
> Same here. R7 and R8 are "recommendations" so I feel the MAY's should be SHOULDs.
> Otherwise the recommendation becomes "do whatever you MAY please", in which case
> why are these in the document?

I agree.

>          R9. Use a smaller number of name servers (13 may be too large)
> 
> I would say "name server names" instead of "name servers", to avoid any ambiguity
> of anycast name servers operating under the same name. Eg the document is not
> saying "use less than 13 name servers", but it is saying "use less than 13 name
> server names"

I agree.

> 
> 
>          smaller than those usually used for RSA.
> 
> smaller than those of equivalent cryptographic strength using RSA

I agree.


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P Vixie