Re: [dnssd] Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnssd-requirements-05: (with COMMENT)
Kerry Lynn <kerlyn@ieee.org> Fri, 13 March 2015 20:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dnssd] Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnssd-requirements-05: (with COMMENT)
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On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> wrote: > Benoit Claise has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-dnssd-requirements-05: No Objection > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnssd-requirements/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The IETF should definitively focus on this problem space. Thanks. > > Some comments below: > > - I agree with Martin's comment. > > As do I. > - Section 4, REQ8 looks a very fundemental requirement for all service > discovery mechanism. It does not look like a specific requirement for > SSD > > Are you suggesting we should remove REQ8? This specifically includes M2M, which may not be a requirement of *all* SD mechanisms. > - Some of the requirements will be hard to fulfill, if taken literally: > REQ9: SSD should operate efficiently on common link layers and link > types. > > Are you suggesting we should remove REQ9? I think this specifically relates to reducing the dependence on multicast. > REQ12: SSD should enable a way to provide a consistent user > experience whether local or remote services are being > discovered. > > I agree; this one seems hard. But I still think we should try to satisfy it. > - Very surprised that the Security Considerations don't lead to formal > requirements > For example, in connection with "6.1 Scope of Discovery" and "6.5 Access > Control", I was expecting a requirement such as > REQXX: the owner of the advertised service must be able to configure > whether his service should be advertised beyond the local link > > I think you make a good point. As I read REQ1 & REQ2, it seems that in a typical multi-subnet residential case the user might have to take some action to make a service visible beyond the local link or site. OTOH, it might be a good idea to explicitly say that a user must OPT-IN to global advertisements. BTW, I believe it's in plan to produce a separate threat analysis document which may help clarify additional requirements. Regards, Kerry Lynn > The way the requirements are specified: all services will be visible to > everybody, and the access control will accept/reject the service request. > That reminds me of the typical airport wireless situation: you try every > wireless network to see which one will accept you. > > > _______________________________________________ > dnssd mailing list > dnssd@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnssd >
- Re: [dnssd] Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft… Benoit Claise
- [dnssd] Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft-iet… Benoit Claise
- Re: [dnssd] Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft… Kerry Lynn