Re: [dnssd] Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnssd-requirements-05: (with COMMENT)

Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Mon, 16 March 2015 09:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dnssd] Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnssd-requirements-05: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Kerry,
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com 
> <mailto:bclaise@cisco.com>> wrote:
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>     Benoit Claise has entered the following ballot position for
>     draft-ietf-dnssd-requirements-05: No Objection
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>     The IETF should definitively focus on this problem space. Thanks.
>
>     Some comments below:
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>     - Section 4, REQ8 looks a very fundemental requirement for all service
>     discovery mechanism. It does not look like a specific requirement for
>     SSD
>
> Are you suggesting we should remove REQ8?  This specifically includes
> M2M, which may not be a requirement of *all* SD mechanisms.
No need to remove it.
>
>     - Some of the requirements will be hard to fulfill, if taken
>     literally:
>        REQ9:   SSD should operate efficiently on common link layers
>     and link
>                types.
>
> Are you suggesting we should remove REQ9?  I think this specifically 
> relates
> to reducing the dependence on multicast.
I'm just asking: what does "efficiently" mean? How are you going to 
evaluate this criteria?
>
>        REQ12:  SSD should enable a way to provide a consistent user
>                experience whether local or remote services are being
>                discovered.
>
> I agree; this one seems hard.  But I still think we should try to 
> satisfy it.
>
>     - Very surprised that the Security Considerations don't lead to formal
>     requirements
>     For example, in connection with "6.1 Scope of Discovery" and "6.5
>     Access
>     Control", I was expecting a requirement such as
>        REQXX:  the owner of the advertised service must be able to
>     configure
>     whether his service should be advertised beyond the local link
>
> I think you make a good point.  As I read REQ1 & REQ2, it seems that in a
> typical multi-subnet residential case the user might have to take some 
> action
> to make a service visible beyond the local link or site.  OTOH, it 
> might be a
> good idea to explicitly say that a user must OPT-IN to global 
> advertisements.
>
> BTW, I believe it's in plan to produce a separate threat analysis document
> which may help clarify additional requirements.
Regards, Benoit
>
> Regards, Kerry Lynn
>
>     The way the requirements are specified: all services will be
>     visible to
>     everybody, and the access control will accept/reject the service
>     request.
>     That reminds me of the typical airport wireless situation: you try
>     every
>     wireless network to see which one will accept you.
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