Re: [dnssd] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-24.txt

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Fri, 02 February 2024 19:58 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2024 14:57:20 -0500
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Subject: Re: [dnssd] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-24.txt
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Hm, just to clarify, part of what I was expecting of Paul was that if he
felt strongly about various points he raised, to which my replies were not
"yes, I'll go do that," it would help to hear his reply, which AFAIK never
happened.

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 2:56 PM Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:

> A number of the changes Paul asked for are changes I don't think are
> advisable or would improve the document. E.g., changing
> default.service.arpa to _default._service.arpa. As you say, he never
> replied to my reply, which is part of why the document update took so
> long—I was waiting for him to reply, and then life suddenly got hard. I
> think you may need to pin him down and ask him what his intentions are
> during the next informal telechat.
>
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 9:48 AM Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke=
> 40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>> Chris and Ted,
>>
>>
>>
>> Indeed, revision -24 is a big change (mainly editorial and nothing deeply
>> technical requiring a Last Call).
>>
>>
>>
>> OTOH, I am unsure whether -24 addresses all Paul Wouters’ concerns,
>> noting that Paul did not reply to Ted’s reply (about the DISCUSS).
>>
>>
>>
>> Ted, do you think that all Paul’s issues have been addressed either in
>> your email or in -24 ? If so, then may I suggest to nudge Paul to revisit
>> his DISCUSS ballot ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards and thanks for the -24: nice to see a move
>>
>>
>>
>> -éric
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *dnssd <dnssd-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Chris Box <
>> chris.box.ietf@gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Friday, 2 February 2024 at 12:58
>> *To: *"dnssd@ietf.org" <dnssd@ietf.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [dnssd] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-24.txt
>>
>>
>>
>> *Thank you* Ted, for working on this. I know there was a significant
>> amount of feedback to address. My (no-hat) opinion is that the text looks
>> measurably improved as a result.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would encourage everyone to scan through the changes in the diff
>> <https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-24>. The
>> key test of course is to see if Éric and the wider IESG are happy with -24.
>>
>>
>>
>> I feel we are nearly there.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 at 00:06, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-24.txt is now available. It is a work
>> item
>> of the Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery (DNSSD) WG of the
>> IETF.
>>
>>    Title:   Service Registration Protocol for DNS-Based Service Discovery
>>    Authors: Ted Lemon
>>             Stuart Cheshire
>>    Name:    draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-24.txt
>>    Pages:   40
>>    Dates:   2024-01-29
>>
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