Re: [Doh] Benoit Claise's No Objection on charter-ietf-doh-00-12: (with COMMENT)
Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Thu, 28 September 2017 21:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Doh] Benoit Claise's No Objection on charter-ietf-doh-00-12: (with COMMENT)
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That would help. Thanks Adam B. > On 9/28/17 5:06 AM, Benoit Claise wrote: >> In my first ballot, I mentioned "What I've been failing to understand >> from the >> charter is the rational for DNS over HTTPS? Can you expand on this." >> Because >> I'm not an Web browser and DNS expert, or most likely because the >> concerns were >> not clear in my head, I could not clearly express my thoughts. >> >> So I watched the IETF mailing list with attention. >> Mark Nottingham's email summarized the situation >> >> It's not a matter of constraining the work; the work isn't >> proposing to >> operate even remotely in the way that you describe. I think >> we're just >> having a misunderstanding, because people have multiple use >> cases in mind >> for this protocol, and properties thereof have been mixed up. >> >> AIUI those use cases are, roughly: >> >> 1. Configure your browser/OS to use a DOH service for DNS >> resolution (as >> above) -- this will affect browser/OS state, because it's being >> used for >> DNS; however, it's not being done from JS. >> >> 2. Call a DOH service from Javascript (for some reason) -- note >> this is >> just like any other HTTP request; it doesn't affect browser/OS >> state >> outside of the same origin model. Yes, you can still build a >> browser-in-a-browser and mess with things inside that context, >> but that's >> already true today. >> >> 3. Future handwavy things like making DNS updates over HTTP -- very >> ill-defined and not important for this discussion >> >> Expressing #1 and #2 in the charter would have helped me. #2 is kind >> of present >> now. What about the addition the notion of "browser and/or OS" in the >> next >> sentence? >> >> The primary focus of this working group is to develop a mechanism that >> provides confidentiality and connectivity between DNS Clients and >> Iterative >> Resolvers. > > > I think "browser" is likely to confuse the issue, since people are > likely to conflate that with JavaScript. Do you think it would be > clear enough to say the following? > > "The primary focus of this working group is to develop a mechanism that > provides confidentiality and connectivity between DNS Clients (e.g., > operating > system stub resolvers) and Iterative Resolvers." > > /a > > . >
- [Doh] Benoit Claise's No Objection on charter-iet… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Doh] Benoit Claise's No Objection on charter… Adam Roach
- Re: [Doh] Benoit Claise's No Objection on charter… Benoit Claise