Re: [Dtls-iot] dice wg future work... or time to declare victory?

["Kumar, Sandeep" <[e-mail]>]

I do have to say that Zach and Dorothy did spend quite some effort trying to get DICE on track even with their growing responsibilities outside IETF. Thanks to both!  However DICE was just taken hostage by a few distractors who even till today haven't provided any alternative practical solutions. It sure is a "victory" for the distractors, not for anyone here who wanted to solve a real world problem in a practical way.

When we started DICE, there were quite some good ideas on further improving IoT security with just DTLS (remember DTLS-relay). Either we need more energy and guidance (also from the chairs) or accept that these kind of stuff will be standardized outside IETF. The latter is a sad conclusion of closing DICE.

Sandeep

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dtls-iot [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Shahid Raza
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:44 PM
> To: Carsten Bormann <[e-mail]>
> Cc: Hannes Tschofenig <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [Dtls-iot] dice wg future work... or time to declare victory?
>
> I also think we are not done with the DICE charter. To complete the work, I
> would prefer current chairs but will not mind new chair(s) if the group is
> closing only because of the unavailability of the current chairs.
>
> Regards
> Shahid
>
> > On 26 Oct 2015, at 12:30, Carsten Bormann <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> >> Let's close the group and cover group communication in the ACE
> >> working group instead.
> >
> > I'm not sure that ACE is the right WG for this, we don't do comsec
> > there (we need it, but import it from elsewhere).
> >
> > (COSE might be the right WG, but that is rather focused on one
> > technology.)
> >
> > One other DICE thing that is still open is DTLS-over-SMS.  No idea
> > whether we have the energy to finish this, but I seem to remember it
> > is mostly done.
> >
> > Grüße, Carsten
> >
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