Re: [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information
Göran Selander <goran.selander@ericsson.com> Tue, 30 July 2013 10:32 UTC
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From: Göran Selander <goran.selander@ericsson.com>
To: Corinna Schmitt <schmitt@ifi.uzh.ch>, Olaf Bergmann <bergmann@tzi.org>
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Subject: Re: [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information
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Hi Corinna, Olaf, I'm also interested in this discussion. I didn't intend to complain on lack of feedback. Here are my concerns: 1. To find a home for work on authorization and access control in constrained environments. The proposals on the table are really building on DTLS and COAP, so either CORE or DICE seems right to me. In the CORE WG there were a set of people showing hands of interest. 2. To be able to work on this now as there is a potential dependence on other ongoing things (e.g. access control in resource directory). 3. To make sure that the CORE and "DTLS in constrained environments"-related questions brought up in these drafts are coordinated with CORE and DICE. This includes stuff like DTLS client and server key provisioning schemes alternative to the CoAP security modes and the use of these for DoS mitigation in DTLS. Regards, Göran From: Corinna Schmitt <schmitt@ifi.uzh.ch<mailto:schmitt@ifi.uzh.ch>> Date: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:51 AM To: Olaf Bergmann <bergmann@tzi.org<mailto:bergmann@tzi.org>> Cc: Zach Shelby <zach@sensinode.com<mailto:zach@sensinode.com>>, "dtls-iot@ietf.org<mailto:dtls-iot@ietf.org>" <dtls-iot@ietf.org<mailto:dtls-iot@ietf.org>> Subject: Re: [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information Dear Olaf, thanks for your remark. I think authentication is a big topic especially for constraint devices. And yes, I agree for team up. Due to many travelling I will arrive in Berlin late afternoon and have to leave tomorrow evening again. Perhaps we can find some time to discuss it as soon as possible. Tomorrow morning I am free. So if any one has time we can meet. I stay at the Pestana Berlin Tiergarten, but will be at the meeting location after breakfast. For the dinner tonight I have no ticket. So I cannot join if no one has one for me. Regards, Corinna Am 30.07.13 10:20, schrieb Olaf Bergmann: Zach Shelby <zach@sensinode.com><mailto:zach@sensinode.com> writes: Hi Corinna, On Jul 30, 2013, at 7:16 AM, Corinna Schmitt <schmitt@ifi.uzh.ch><mailto:schmitt@ifi.uzh.ch> wrote: Just for information concerning our draft http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schmitt-two-way-authentication-for-iot-00: We already started to implemented a solution and evaluated a little bit. So we would be glad if our draft will be approved and stay in DICE. Your draft was actually discussed yesterday in the CoRE WG meeting in the scope of general authentication and authorisation in CoRE. This subject will be out of scope for the first DICE charter as we already have a couple concrete problems to solve. It is not clear where the "AA" work will end up, probably in some other new working group, or maybe in some future re-chartering of DICE. The discussion yesterday was a bit low on the guidance level how to proceed. Even if this topic is not the most pressing for DICE, I highly recommend to work on this space *now*. Corinna, maybe we could team up with the other authors of the relevant drafts to find out what the next steps are? We had a quick talk with Göran yesterday, and he also had the impression that the WG could have been more active in giving feedback on these drafts. Gruesse Olaf _______________________________________________ dtls-iot mailing list dtls-iot@ietf.org<mailto:dtls-iot@ietf.org>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dtls-iot -- [cid:part1.09050909.01090803@ifi.uzh.ch]
- Re: [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information Göran Selander
- [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information Zach Shelby
- Re: [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information Corinna Schmitt
- Re: [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information Zach Shelby
- Re: [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information QiMinpeng
- Re: [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information Olaf Bergmann
- Re: [Dtls-iot] Where to work on AA/revocation Zach Shelby
- Re: [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information Corinna Schmitt
- Re: [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information Olaf Bergmann
- [Dtls-iot] 答复: Updated BOF information QiMinpeng
- Re: [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information Göran Selander
- Re: [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information Zach Shelby
- Re: [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information Michael Richardson
- Re: [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information Kumar, Sandeep
- Re: [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information Göran Selander
- Re: [Dtls-iot] Updated BOF information Göran Selander
- [Dtls-iot] CoRE meeting 1 outcome (Re: Updated BO… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Dtls-iot] CoRE meeting 1 outcome (Re: Update… Corinna Schmitt