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Re: [Dyncast] CAN BoF issues and the next steps

"Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> Mon, 11 April 2022 14:42 UTC

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From: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>
To: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>, "liupengyjy@chinamobile.com" <liupengyjy@chinamobile.com>, dyncast <dyncast@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Dyncast] CAN BoF issues and the next steps
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I agree.
Thanks,
Acee

On 4/11/22, 10:36 AM, "Dyncast on behalf of Joel M. Halpern" <dyncast-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:

    I believe I was very clear during the BoF.  I have not seen a persuasive 
    case for why we need to use the underlay routing system to address the 
    problem of enabling communication between end user applications and edge 
    located compute services.

    There are multiple ways to improve the application situation without 
    burdening the underlay routing with something it does not care about.

    Yours,
    Joel

    On 4/11/2022 10:30 AM, liupengyjy@chinamobile.com wrote:
    > Dear Joel,
    > 
    > Sorry, more accurately, we didn't hear any objections on the use case.
    > 
    > We are eager to hear any issues with the use cases presented. We would 
    > appreciate it very much if you can elaborate issues you have with the 
    > use case.
    > 
    > Regards,
    > Peng
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > liupengyjy@chinamobile.com
    > 
    >     *From:* Joel M. Halpern <mailto:jmh@joelhalpern.com>
    >     *Date:* 2022-04-11 20:41
    >     *To:* liupengyjy@chinamobile.com
    >     <mailto:liupengyjy@chinamobile.com>; dyncast <mailto:dyncast@ietf.org>
    >     *Subject:* Re: [Dyncast] CAN BoF issues and the next steps
    >     Please do not overstate the situation.
    >     I do not think that "almost everyone agreed" to anything in that BoF.
    >     And in particular, I do not think that "almost everyone agreed" to the
    >     value for additional metrics.
    >     Yours,
    >     Joel
    >     On 4/11/2022 2:36 AM, liupengyjy@chinamobile.com wrote:
    >      > Dear all,
    >      >
    >      > Thanks for supporting and joining the CAN work.  We can
    >     see that the BoF
    >      > was successful and had a good discussion, and almost everyone
    >     agree on
    >      > the use case that considering more metrics for steering traffic is
    >      > valuable and a right direction.
    >      > https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-113-can
    >      > <https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-113-can>.
    >      >
    >      > Here we list the issues according to BoF talking and give the
    >      > preliminary answers to them, which could be found at
    >      > https://github.com/CAN-IETF/CAN-BoF-ietf113/issues
    >      > <https://github.com/CAN-IETF/CAN-BoF-ietf113/issues>. If missing any
    >      > issue, please let us know and we could add it. The issues will
    >     continue
    >      > to be iterated and then closed.
    >      >
    >      > Moreover, we will update the key drafts according to the BoF
    >     talking and
    >      > further thinking. If you have the interests, please feel free to
    >     contact
    >      > us.
    >      >
    >      > Regards,
    >      > Peng
    >      >
    >      >
    >     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >      > liupengyjy@chinamobile.com
    >      >
    > 

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