Re: [E-impact] Carbon aware routing
Eve Schooler <eve.schooler@gmail.com> Sat, 17 February 2024 00:37 UTC
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2024 16:37:02 -0800
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Thanks Hesham! The paper first appeared in HotCarbon'22, and was re-published along with many other papers from that workshop in the ACM SIGEnergy Energy Informatics Review this past Oct 2023. --Eve On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 3:50 PM Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com> wrote: > I also recall that Noa and Eve had a paper on carbon aware networking > https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3630614.3630618. It is also a good paper. > > It is worth noting that section 8.6 of Sawdan and Noa paper provides a > comparison with the state of the art. "In summary, this paper looked at > practical current considerations, different to assumptions in previous > works. It estimated similar carbon savings while accounting for more > fine-grained carbon > intensity data, technical operating considerations of routers, without > assumptions on additional renewable energy deployments." > > Hesham > > On Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 12:47 PM Rudolf van der Berg < > rudolfvanderberg@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> https://ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid:504d0a87-6742-414f-b2c2-be74f2e5b579/files/sc821gm64z >> >> Op vr 16 feb 2024 20:30 schreef Chris Adams < >> chris@thegreenwebfoundation.org>: >> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> > We had good presentation today on carbon aware routing. More details on >>>> > carbon aware routing are provided in this paper: >>>> > https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3629165 >>>> >>> >>> I’m not part of an institution with access to that paper at that url - >>> would a kind soul point me to somewhere I can download it, or share a copy >>> with me? I’m very interested in reading it. >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Chris Adams >>> >>> Executive Director >>> >>> w: thegreenwebfoundation.org >>> e: chris@thegreenwebfoundation.org >>> t: @mrchrisadams >>> >>> German Office >>> Naunynstrasse 40 >>> 10999 Berlin >>> Germany >>> >>> See our contact page for more details >>> https://www.thegreenwebfoundation.org/contact/ >>> >>> Book a short call with me to discuss something. >>> https://cal.com/mrchrisadams >>> >>> >>> On 16. Feb 2024, at 20:03, Dirk Trossen <dirk.trossen= >>> 40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>> >>> CATS, although compute aware, could incorporate energy metrics in its >>> approach to traffic steering. >>> >>> In fact, we had discussed previously in CATS work that I published in >>> IFIP Networking 2021 that utilised a cardinal based WFQ at ingress points >>> to dynamically steer traffic. We're currently looking into the right >>> utility function for energy to replace the compute units we used back in >>> 2021. >>> >>> Dirk >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:*Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com> >>> *To:*Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> >>> *Cc:*E-Impact IETF <e-impact@ietf.org> >>> *Date:*2024-02-16 19:03:35 >>> *Subject:*Re: [E-impact] Carbon aware routing >>> >>> Tvr is my preference as we discussed upon tvr inception. But I think in >>> today's meeting IRTF was mentioned as the venue for this discussion. >>> >>> Hesham >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 9:57 AM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: >>> >>>> IRTF not sure, but IETF TVR: >>>> >>>> >From charter: >>>> >>>> "Similarly, network traffic might be routed based on energy costs or >>>> expected user data volumes, which may vary predictably over time in >>>> networks prioritizing green computing and energy efficiency." >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Toerless >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 09:49:03AM -0800, Hesham ElBakoury wrote: >>>> > We had good presentation today on carbon aware routing. More details >>>> on >>>> > carbon aware routing are provided in this paper: >>>> > https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3629165 >>>> > >>>> > Which IRTF group is suitable to discuss this topic More? >>>> > >>>> > Thanks >>>> > Hesham >>>> >>>> > -- >>>> > E-impact mailing list >>>> > E-impact@ietf.org >>>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/e-impact >>>> >>> -- >>> E-impact mailing list >>> E-impact@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/e-impact >>> >>> >>> -- >>> E-impact mailing list >>> E-impact@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/e-impact >>> >> -- > E-impact mailing list > E-impact@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/e-impact >
- [E-impact] Carbon aware routing Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] Carbon aware routing Toerless Eckert
- Re: [E-impact] Carbon aware routing Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] Carbon aware routing Dirk Trossen
- Re: [E-impact] Carbon aware routing Chris Adams
- Re: [E-impact] Carbon aware routing Noa Zilberman
- Re: [E-impact] Carbon aware routing Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] Carbon aware routing Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] Carbon aware routing Eve Schooler
- Re: [E-impact] Carbon aware routing Michael Welzl
- Re: [E-impact] Carbon aware routing Hesham ElBakoury
- [E-impact] Why carbon aware routing would break t… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] Why carbon aware routing would bre… Dom Robinson
- Re: [E-impact] Why carbon aware routing would bre… Sébastien Rumley
- Re: [E-impact] Why carbon aware routing would bre… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] {Spam?} Re: Why carbon aware routi… Romain Jacob
- [E-impact] Carbon aware network service pricing ?… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [E-impact] Why carbon aware routing would bre… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [E-impact] Why carbon aware routing would bre… Colby Barth
- Re: [E-impact] Why carbon aware routing would bre… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [E-impact] Why carbon aware routing ... Vesna Manojlovic
- Re: [E-impact] Why carbon aware routing ... Toerless Eckert
- Re: [E-impact] Why carbon aware routing ... Noa Zilberman
- Re: [E-impact] Why carbon aware routing would bre… Noa Zilberman
- Re: [E-impact] Why carbon aware routing would bre… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] Why carbon aware routing would bre… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] Why carbon aware routing would bre… Noa Zilberman