Re: [E-impact] Carbon aware routing

Eve Schooler <eve.schooler@gmail.com> Sat, 17 February 2024 00:37 UTC

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From: Eve Schooler <eve.schooler@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2024 16:37:02 -0800
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Thanks Hesham!
The paper first appeared in HotCarbon'22, and was re-published along with
many other papers from that workshop in the ACM SIGEnergy Energy
Informatics Review this past Oct 2023.
--Eve

On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 3:50 PM Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I also recall that Noa and Eve had a paper on carbon aware networking
> https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3630614.3630618. It is also a good paper.
>
> It is worth noting that section 8.6 of Sawdan and Noa paper provides a
> comparison with the state of the art. "In summary, this paper looked at
> practical current considerations, different to assumptions in previous
> works. It estimated similar carbon savings while accounting for more
> fine-grained carbon
>  intensity data, technical operating considerations of routers, without
> assumptions on additional renewable energy deployments."
>
> Hesham
>
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 12:47 PM Rudolf van der Berg <
> rudolfvanderberg@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid:504d0a87-6742-414f-b2c2-be74f2e5b579/files/sc821gm64z
>>
>> Op vr 16 feb 2024 20:30 schreef Chris Adams <
>> chris@thegreenwebfoundation.org>:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> > We had good presentation today on carbon aware routing. More details on
>>>> > carbon aware routing are provided in this paper:
>>>> > https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3629165
>>>>
>>>
>>> I’m not part of an institution with access to that paper at that url -
>>> would a kind soul point me to somewhere I can download it, or share a copy
>>> with me? I’m very interested in reading it.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Chris Adams
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>>> On 16. Feb 2024, at 20:03, Dirk Trossen <dirk.trossen=
>>> 40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> CATS, although compute aware,  could incorporate energy metrics in its
>>> approach to traffic steering.
>>>
>>> In fact,  we had discussed previously in CATS work that I published in
>>> IFIP Networking 2021 that utilised a cardinal based WFQ at ingress points
>>> to dynamically steer traffic. We're currently looking into the right
>>> utility function for energy to replace the compute units we used back in
>>> 2021.
>>>
>>> Dirk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:*Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com>
>>> *To:*Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
>>> *Cc:*E-Impact IETF <e-impact@ietf.org>
>>> *Date:*2024-02-16 19:03:35
>>> *Subject:*Re: [E-impact] Carbon aware routing
>>>
>>> Tvr is my preference as we discussed upon tvr inception. But I think in
>>> today's meeting IRTF was mentioned as the venue for this discussion.
>>>
>>> Hesham
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 9:57 AM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> IRTF not sure, but IETF TVR:
>>>>
>>>> >From charter:
>>>>
>>>> "Similarly, network traffic might be routed based on energy costs or
>>>> expected user data volumes, which may vary predictably over time in
>>>> networks prioritizing green computing and energy efficiency."
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>     Toerless
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 09:49:03AM -0800, Hesham ElBakoury wrote:
>>>> > We had good presentation today on carbon aware routing. More details
>>>> on
>>>> > carbon aware routing are provided in this paper:
>>>> > https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3629165
>>>> >
>>>> > Which IRTF group is suitable to discuss this topic More?
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks
>>>> > Hesham
>>>>
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