Re: [EAT] Introduction

Laurence Lundblade <lgl@island-resort.com> Sun, 09 September 2018 16:37 UTC

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My understanding from the RATS BoF and talking to Henk, Marty and others is that it is about sending the attestations created by TPMs to a remote entity. These  attestation messages contain the usual measurements of the running SW that TPMs do. It is very TCG oriented. 

There is some possibility of defining a protocol to carry these attestations, but I don’t think anything has been written. 

There was a lot of interest in this from the network infrastructure folks that want to make sure routers, firewalls and such were booted and still running correctly. 

LL




> On Sep 7, 2018, at 6:51 AM, Shawn Willden <swillden=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. I need to get clear on what rats@ is about. Is there a draft?
> 
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 6:29 AM Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org <mailto:cabo@tzi.org>> wrote:
> On Sep 6, 2018, at 18:37, Shawn Willden <swillden=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
> > 
> > Please excuse me if I'm violating some list etiquette with this introduction; it seemed like the best way to jump in. It appears that cross-posting between RATS and EAT is fairly common, so I think I'm good on that front :-)
> 
> Hi Shawn,
> 
> welcome to this discussion!
> 
> Indeed, as long as we are trying to find out what is what between eat@ and rats@, cross-posting is the way to go.
> 
> A thread of three of the messages triggered by your initial message went to eat@ only, though:
> 
> Archived-At: ⁨<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/eat/G5WvKAAXc16ixn30MbcfErLmUQ4 <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/eat/G5WvKAAXc16ixn30MbcfErLmUQ4>>⁩
> Archived-At: ⁨<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/eat/DxM8NcxqPsR6HZXDS1q24lUqMg8 <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/eat/DxM8NcxqPsR6HZXDS1q24lUqMg8>>⁩
> Archived-At: ⁨<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/eat/61cWm6byj-9tItyjUIi3PyGsCJk <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/eat/61cWm6byj-9tItyjUIi3PyGsCJk>>⁩
> 
> As these are essentially about rats@ content (proof of protection), it would be useful for rats@ people to read them, too (and then reply to both lists, please).
> 
> Grüße, Carsten
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