Re: [Ecrit] AD review: draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-29

Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Sun, 19 July 2015 10:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] AD review: draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-29
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On Jul 17, 2015, at 5:59 PM, Rosen, Brian <Brian.Rosen@neustar.biz> wrote:

>>> 
>>> The thing about the subscriber privacy indicator is that it's up to 
>>> local regulation what elements it covers and what it means.  I don't 
>>> think we can dictate that.
>> 
>> Well, does it have to be in the owner/subscriber block? I thought that implied that it was only relevant to the owner/subscriber data, but if it could be interpreted more broadly then I’m not sure it makes sense to put it in that block.
>> 
> There are jurisdictions that, for example, would consider the telephone number to be private, and that is not in the owner/subscriber block.  But all of the data in that block is affected by the privacy indicator in all the jurisdictions I’m aware of.  So, I do think it’s in the right place.
> 
> Randy’s point was that what it means changes from one jurisdiction to another, so what fields it affects could vary, and which blocks they are a part of will vary.  I don’t think we want to make the mechanism more complex. 

Ok. If you could add a sentence to the description to make it clear that the application of the indicator may extend to any of the additional data shared, I think that would help.

Thanks,
Alissa

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