Re: [Ecrit] Requesting IETF LC for phonebcp - Minor IM issue

"James M. Polk" <jmpolk@cisco.com> Tue, 08 February 2011 23:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Requesting IETF LC for phonebcp - Minor IM issue
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At 02:39 PM 2/8/2011, Marc Linsner wrote:
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Richard L. Barnes" <rbarnes@bbn.com>
>Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 14:25:46 -0600
>To: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net>
>Cc: <ecrit@ietf.org>
>Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Requesting IETF LC for phonebcp - Minor IM issue
>
> ><hat type="individual" />
> >
> >(I saw this on the XMPP list first, so my extended reply is there.  I
> >just sent it, so can't provide a link yet.)
> >
> >I do not think we should add XMPP to phonebcp at this point.  Even though
> >XMPP for emergency services is a great idea, it would not be a trivial
> >addition.  Let's let phonebcp go to RFC and handle XMPP in an update.
> >
> >--Richard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Brian Rosen wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, I agree.
> >>
> >> I'm certain we will have a rev due to LC comments, and I will fix the
> >>text in that rev.
> >>
> >> concur with Bernard on xmpp.
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >> On Feb 8, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Bernard Aboba wrote:
> >>
> >>> I agree with this comment -- both should be required in the PSAP, not
> >>>the endpoint.
> >>>
> >>> On XMPP support for emergency services, that is probably something
> >>> to bring to the XMPP WG (or the XSF).  The question will remain open
> >>> until there is documentation, either describing how it can be done, or
> >>> explaining why it is not supported.  Until then, phonebcp should
> >>>probably
> >>> remain silent.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 10:28:36 +0100
> >>> > From: gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se
> >>> > To: ecrit@ietf.org
> >>> > Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Requesting IETF LC for phonebcp - Minor IM issue
> >>> >
> >>> > I think I discussed a need for a minor change in September.
> >>> >
> >>> > It is in the Media chapter 14.
> >>> >
> >>> > This statement:
> >>> > "ED-75 Endpoints supporting Instant Messaging (IM) MUST support both
> >>> > [RFC3428] and [RFC4975]."
> >>> >
> >>> > It looks strange to require both IM protocols of the endpoint.
> >>>Usually
> >>> > they support one. The requirement would be suitable for a PSAP.
> >>> >
> >>> > So, the agreement was to change to:
> >>> >
> >>> > "ED-75 Endpoints supporting Instant Messaging (IM) MUST support
> >>>either
> >>> > [RFC3428] or [RFC4975]."
> >>> >
> >>> > ( maybe there is now even an interest to add XMPP to that list, or
> >>>do we
> >>> > then open for a heap of complications regarding addressing and
> >>>location
> >>> > information etc. )
> >>> >
> >>> > I do not regard this to be a subtantial issue, so I did not want to
> >>> > bother the ietf mail list with it.
> >>> >
> >>> > /Gunnar
> >>> >
> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> > >> At 04:37 PM 2/7/2011, Robert Sparks wrote:
> >>> > >>> All -
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> I've requested IETFLC for the phonebcp draft. There are still
> >>>some outstanding questions/comments from John Elwell that should be
> >>>treated as last call comments.
> >>> > >>> Also, something needs to register the sos.*.test URNs. I think
> >>>this document could do that.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> RjS
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