Re: [Ecrit] Draft new version: draft-holmberg-ecrit-country-emg-urn-02

["Rosen, Brian" <[e-mail]>]

I think we have a problem here.  We don't require "specification" and we don't have adequate descriptions in the registry.

I am loath to require specification for this registry.  So, I suggest we expand "description" to a larger piece of text, and supply advice to the expert to evaluate the adequacy of the explanation.  We could copy text out of the RFC to start this process.

Brian

On Mar 19, 2013, at 4:33 PM, John-Luc Bakker <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:

Hi Ivo,

Thanks for the quick response.
The IANA web page has for “urn:service:sos.mountain” the following description “Mountain rescue” and a link to the RFC. The RFC then has the following description of the caller expectation in terms of services rendered:

      The 'mountain' service refers to mountain
      rescue services (i.e., search and rescue activities that occur in
      a mountainous environment), although the term is sometimes also
      used to apply to search and rescue in other wilderness
      environments.

In my opinion, according to the RFC, “urn:service:sos.mountain” could also be applied to emergencies in caves/sink holes (i.e. no need for a mountainous terrain), although such use would not be immediately apparent from the description on the IANA web page that has the registry for Service URN Labels.

Perhaps the issue is that the IANA web page that has the registry for Service URN Labels misses some information that is found in the RFC.

Regards,

               JL

From: Ivo Sedlacek [mailto:[e-mail]<http://ericsson.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:02 AM
To: John-Luc Bakker; Christer Holmberg; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [Ecrit] Draft new version: draft-holmberg-ecrit-country-emg-urn-02

Hello,

> Will the caller expectation in terms of services rendered be documented somewhere?

The new policy proposed in draft-holmberg-ecrit-country-emg-urn-02 section 5.3 states:

   The 'sos' service type describes emergency services requiring an
   immediate response, typically offered by various branches of the
   government or other public institutions.  Additional sub-services can
   be added after expert review.  The expert is designated by the ECRIT
   working group, its successor, or, in their absence, the IESG.  The
   expert review should only approve services that have emergency
   nature, that are offered in at least one country, that do not match
   description of any existing service URN with the 'sos' service type,
   and where the service description and the URN are defined as broadly
   as possible to encourage reuse.  The 'sos' service is not meant to
   invoke general government, public information, counseling, or social
   services.

I.e. in the expert review, the service description and the URN are reviewed. If approved, the service description and URN are listed in IANA - see http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-serviceid-labels/urn-serviceid-labels.xml#urn-serviceid-labels-2

Kind regards

Ivo Sedlacek


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From: [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of John-Luc Bakker
Sent: 19. března 2013 16:12
To: Christer Holmberg; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Draft new version: draft-holmberg-ecrit-country-emg-urn-02

Hi Christer,

Thanks for this.
When a new URN is adopted via expert review, a description of the caller expectation in terms of services rendered (for the new URN) cannot be found in RFC 5031.

For example, for the existing URN urn:service:sos.mountain, the RFC includes:

      The 'mountain' service refers to mountain
      rescue services (i.e., search and rescue activities that occur in
      a mountainous environment), although the term is sometimes also
      used to apply to search and rescue in other wilderness
      environments.

Will the caller expectation in terms of services rendered be documented somewhere?
Apologies if this query was already addressed during the ECRIT session …

Kind regards,

               JL

From: [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Christer Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 6:52 AM
To: [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
Subject: [Ecrit] Draft new version: draft-holmberg-ecrit-country-emg-urn-02

Hi,

Based on the Orlando decision to move forward with the relax-the-5031-registration-policy alternative for allowing emg URNs for services offered in one country only, I’ve submitted an “official” new version (-02) of draft-holmberg-ecrit-country-emg-urn. Aside from some minor changes caused by the new version of xml2rfc, the draft is identical to the pre-02 version I distributed before the meeting.

As was indicated in the meeting, additional text will still be needed, but once the Orlando decision is verified on the list I hope we can adopt the draft as base for the work.

Thanks to everyone who provided comments during the meeting!

Regards,

Christer
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