Re: [Ecrit] Objet : Status on draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-19

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Sun, 13 August 2023 02:59 UTC

Return-Path: <superuser@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A464C14CEFD for <ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 19:59:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.104
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.104 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id igTxFWIFYXwg for <ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 19:59:24 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-ej1-x633.google.com (mail-ej1-x633.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::633]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77D9FC14F5E0 for <ecrit@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 19:59:24 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-ej1-x633.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-99c3ca08c09so98674366b.1 for <ecrit@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 19:59:24 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1691895563; x=1692500363; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=sDHYDy2AxmTNoiSf/DJ1t5VrMojjl9kHMjbh9grD7IM=; b=Nw4DNkTRXunQsQcjYfgDisi6vLhLkv8lOwUf93NjV3iZkiA0nkDPSJOUdXhPnp/67W mTwUyUhlE7rToVaL4KMSok2zT4H4qyrd3feGA48mmFPwUiiPGM3RJJQ5RXv8dPsMCjC4 pAjJP5eqpfkgch0JDD+FIOOWcCZmJzjXBCEr1zA7k7JGSVZgBwbx3SIhh7h6Yem7HA6B hdz3et6OdKbaYW1aHlIjx70lpR9NfF5CJSG+W8Cqu1CE+bU+tW6O4BXVAqIVDpCvUFFy HtGw9AlY4sPhletIKBKg0KeTdRfYjaA6Ducyu34nWXFt0XRR3ft72WJLdcBp4ILAvwHr txLA==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1691895563; x=1692500363; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=sDHYDy2AxmTNoiSf/DJ1t5VrMojjl9kHMjbh9grD7IM=; b=C2/bEkmnEM9bzpPBytkmVgKnN9RzcIcHVxsvez9rQ/Nm4DRsTuj23uNumVAN5NabfW UFcdGoTbsroLQs1OCYZEgvtzf7oDu2c3Is+FTQO/ke1n2O3+WQ2Qlpfctj+vbhfgLqHX XKxX2amtz8FIdh37D/tgIULv8JKQZsdt3/WG2YkaEiiYi9U36XSRnYLVKY9F1jaO6ZqJ L4zsMB+fiVYe0SKid8MZjuAfWlArj/kkxZerem+xxBiaLuITe9ivhefMvFip/+Q3GAW9 N656J5670m1SC2vzqv8fdFCs6I+jJsA7yhfu+xHMWNaccqI+zta5bFGLpiLuBcgweq1O WF4w==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Ywx/lhkX7GLhtdoJ94Qy2FReSrYb8XaC7rS5p73nJIHnhKAszjH ZnhPlf85ReyohgSt5Iivk2G9kNf/JDpdR7JFWGlxnwNd
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHpyPPZicb1XxqG80GoJtELQw5E3mlYMqEnnHcb+Qj8hecs8UVpFPgEwYRk6syj47vwNca8O2TKtHV52CtL6ew=
X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:5354:b0:99d:a228:d0c7 with SMTP id j20-20020a170906535400b0099da228d0c7mr466817ejo.6.1691895562394; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 19:59:22 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <CAL0qLwaoNEFRo7VM_P0T5ENa6Dpr+zSo5MKpYPgOukk5FRb4gA@mail.gmail.com> <B171CB86-FD28-4084-ADC8-FFF530212FA5@brianrosen.net> <CAL0qLwYGxfW03vFu0ma+zw038Yw_XpR0O1M=6ULV9kGGmS-e6g@mail.gmail.com> <73AE151E-D70E-4625-B30C-99A00839BD96@randy.pensive.org>
In-Reply-To: <73AE151E-D70E-4625-B30C-99A00839BD96@randy.pensive.org>
From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 19:59:10 -0700
Message-ID: <CAL0qLwbzdsbZaWT4WqC9sYax3Ke-nSbO1RDkHyhX8CsDVG-nGQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org>
Cc: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net>, ecrit@ietf.org
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fe5f440602c52112"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/leWQQiv4O_ZrjXQkRwUbFVZR6vM>
Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Objet : Status on draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-19
X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies <ecrit.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ecrit>, <mailto:ecrit-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ecrit/>
List-Post: <mailto:ecrit@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ecrit-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit>, <mailto:ecrit-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 02:59:29 -0000

I think I saw him reply to something else so:

ping?

-MSK

On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 9:28 AM Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org>
wrote:

> We're waiting on Brian, who is on vacation now.
>
> --Randall
>
> On 23 Jul 2023, at 9:54, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>
> ping?
>
> (If this got published, I can't find a record of it in email)
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 3:25 PM Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, hope to have “final” draft in the ne t 2-3 days
>>
>> On May 15, 2023, at 9:54 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> So can we finish planned-changes?
>>
>> -MSK
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 3:07 PM Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Making any changes would require pulling the document back to the work
>>> group, editing, and restarting work group last call, IETF last call, and
>>> the IESG review/telecast process.  Then it would go to the back of the RFC
>>> Editor queue.
>>>
>>> You would be better off beating me up to finish planned-changes
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> On Jan 31, 2023, at 1:33 PM, Guy Caron <guycaron911@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Correct me if I’m wrong but it seems to me that similar-location
>>> leverages the extension point, which was defined by RFC 5222. None of the
>>> new elements defined in planned-changes are needed to support
>>> similar-location.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The only linkage I can see is in section 6 of planned-changes that
>>> presents an alternative in XML schema to the RFC 5222 Relax NG one.
>>> However, there is nothing in that section that states normatively that it
>>> replaces the RFC 5222 Relax NG schema.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, to unlock similar-location, would it be possible to remove the
>>> reference to planned-changes altogether?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alternatively, the XML schema could be moved from planned-changes to
>>> similar-location and let planned-changes refer to the similar-location RFC,
>>> similar-location being much more advanced that planned-changes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Guy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *De :* Dwight Purtle <dwightpurtle@gmail.com>
>>> *Envoyé le :*12 janvier 2023 00:33
>>> *À :* Guy Caron <guycaron911@gmail.com>
>>> *Cc :* ecrit@ietf.org
>>> *Objet :*Re: [Ecrit] Status on draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-19
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ECRIT-Similar-Location contains a reference to LoST-Planned-Changes,
>>> which is not yet complete.  Thus the MISSREF.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dwight Purtle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 11:00 AM Guy Caron <guycaron911@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What’s the status on this draft?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There was an announcement on 7 March 2022 that the IESG approved the
>>> draft as a Proposed Standard, yet the draft seems stuck in the REF Editor
>>> queue with a MISSREF and that, for 309 days.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Guy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Ecrit mailing list
>>> Ecrit@ietf.org
>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Ecrit mailing list
>>> Ecrit@ietf.org
>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Ecrit mailing list
>>> Ecrit@ietf.org
>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
> Ecrit mailing list
> Ecrit@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit
>
>