IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [Ecrit] Discussion on draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04

"Marc Linsner (mlinsner)" <mlinsner@cisco.com> Tue, 29 July 2014 21:13 UTC

Return-Path: <mlinsner@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADA71ABB2C for <ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:13:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -14.502
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1P4DZgFqWg78 for <ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:13:08 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from alln-iport-5.cisco.com (alln-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.142.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4D8A1A0142 for <ecrit@ietf.org>; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:13:07 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1314; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1406668388; x=1407877988; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=024OGzqbKeG3pE4gjfc7+sblaC5Gw/rw73IbJKFQfuo=; b=kGb1TsB17KKcioJPo+5fywK0QrhmnPpDYNxvuxwqagEkKTMJsx8Pq9EI DVsc1bFhS4KMB6qc9VPXaSqjDDZhjhykmHpVjcnKpv2cJEWsbyDsfL4XP gwf55JRiMS1+TZRRhREBOEci3ZOjS8Iqsyh4BkwSi/0b5DT+AteTjvhYJ g=;
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhMFAK8N2FOtJV2c/2dsb2JhbABagw5SVwTLbQqHSwGBEhZ3hAMBAQEEAQEBawsMBAIBCA4DAwECLyEGCx0IAgQOBYguAxENuDMNhwkXjR+BeggrBwaERAWKOI8SggWOKYYlg0lsAYFE
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,759,1400025600"; d="scan'208";a="64978239"
Received: from rcdn-core-5.cisco.com ([173.37.93.156]) by alln-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2014 21:13:07 +0000
Received: from xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com [173.36.12.78]) by rcdn-core-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s6TLD7Ft024312 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:13:07 GMT
Received: from xmb-rcd-x08.cisco.com ([169.254.8.152]) by xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com ([173.36.12.78]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:13:07 -0500
From: "Marc Linsner (mlinsner)" <mlinsner@cisco.com>
To: James Winterbottom <a.james.winterbottom@gmail.com>
Thread-Topic: [Ecrit] Discussion on draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04
Thread-Index: AQHPp5Nv4tqyEK5JTUai44qlt9Y0P5u10emAgACp1oCAAN62AIAAieQA///BB4A=
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:13:06 +0000
Message-ID: <CFFD8515.5D705%mlinsner@cisco.com>
References: <05074C92-4D02-48A6-83CC-C85CCB6ACADA@gmail.com> <96EF8E43-7039-4ADC-AB5B-1289EDD6F32C@neustar.biz> <p06240601cffc8c1c66df@[99.111.97.136]> <1C1D0F18-2C06-4152-A686-BE61F9CBB425@neustar.biz> <DAF7D4AB-CF24-4326-B1E8-9DF69675F54D@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <DAF7D4AB-CF24-4326-B1E8-9DF69675F54D@gmail.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
x-originating-ip: [10.21.80.187]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-ID: <F3984C5B48B94845B223A10F1DA3957F@emea.cisco.com>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/vwbs3_w2Sc3fNZYjP2LCNADjTmU
Cc: "ecrit_ietf.org" <ecrit@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Discussion on draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04
X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: <ecrit.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ecrit>, <mailto:ecrit-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/>
List-Post: <mailto:ecrit@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ecrit-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit>, <mailto:ecrit-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:13:10 -0000


-----Original Message-----
From: James Winterbottom <a.james.winterbottom@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 at 4:58 PM
To: "Rosen, Brian" <Brian.Rosen@neustar.biz>
Cc: Randall Gellens <randy@qti.qualcomm.com>, "ecrit_ietf.org"
<ecrit@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Discussion on draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04

>Brian,
>
>If this really is your sentiment then why are we having this debate?
>By your own admission LbyR in LoST requires at least some rough location,
>this doesn¹t meet the requirements we have outlined.
>The routing returned in HELD will meet the requirements in Europe, can¹t
>we just get on with producing a spec please?


The problem is the requirements are for the most part fallacious.

When queried why the VSP can¹t have LbyV if it¹s covered by their EULA,
the answer is, in that case they can have LbyV.

-Marc-



>
>Cheers
>James
>
>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Right, it's a query no matter which entity does it, or which protocol
>>>is used.
>> Yeah.  That¹s why even though I have a preference for LoST-does-LbyR, I
>>am not really against HELD-returns-route.
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> 
>
>_______________________________________________
>Ecrit mailing list
>Ecrit@ietf.org
>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email