[Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gender-representation-05
John R Levine <johnl@ietf.email> Mon, 05 October 2026 16:45 UTC
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> From: Tara Tarakiyee <me=40tarakiyee.com@dmarc.ietf.org> > Specifically, all male NomComs creates an appearance of bias, and those have happened far too often in the past decade. The solution prevents NomComs from being dominated by one gender alone. If we no longer have all male NomComs, then it worked. I've personally stopped trying to make any promises beyond that. That sounds a lot like virtue signalling. If we make this change, maybe there will be more women appointed to leadership, or maybe since nomcom members can't appoint themselves, the smaller pool of women candidates will mean fewer appointments. I don't know and neither does anyone else. As I wrote a while ago, if we are serious about this, we don't have to wave our hands and guess. We have many years of statistics about who the candidates were and who were appointed as a baseline.* Then we can say we will try this and see what happens, do it for five years or so, then come back and look and see if the numbers are different. This is not rocket science, and it's not beyond the ability of the IETF. Are we serious or not? R's, John * - we'd have to guess some of the genders based on the names but I think that for statistical purposes that's close enough
- [Eligibility-discuss] draft-knodel-nomcom-gender-… Tara Tarakiyee
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… Michael Richardson
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… John Levine
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… Tara Tarakiyee
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… Ted Lemon
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… Salz, Rich
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… Stephen Farrell
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… John R Levine
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… John R Levine
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… Stephen Farrell
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… John R Levine
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… Stephen Farrell
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… Joel Halpern
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… Eliot Lear
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… S Moonesamy
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… Eliot Lear
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… John R Levine
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… Eliot Lear
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… Salz, Rich
- [Eligibility-discuss] Area Director eligibility (… S Moonesamy
- [Eligibility-discuss] Practical reality (was: Re:… S Moonesamy
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… John R Levine
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… Salz, Rich
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- [Eligibility-discuss] Re: draft-knodel-nomcom-gen… Salz, Rich