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Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 19 August 2026 16:42 UTC

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On Aug 19, 2026, at 09:04, Michael StJohns <msj@nthpermutation.com> wrote:
> I asked specifically for a cite that supported the "must be at least three" claim.  Those were the two cites that popped up.  Neither provided support for that statement.  
> Perhaps you'll share your query?
> 
OK, I guess maybe I see the issue. "must be at least three" is based on the number of participants in the committee, so the real number would be a percentage, and hence you wouldn't find "must be at least three" in a google search. What I searched for was more general: "the effects of gender representation in committees"

There were quite a few good responses to this, but I will freely admit that this is a naive query, and as I say this is a well-studied topic. I think it's reasonable to ask the SMEs who are participating here to help us out with some references; what I was specifically objecting to was the unfounded assertion that the number was anecdotal.

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