[eman] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-08: (with COMMENT)
"Stephen Farrell" <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Wed, 17 December 2014 14:32 UTC
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Subject: [eman] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-08: (with COMMENT)
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Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-08: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - general: I am not at all sure that this does match the other EMAN documents that have been through IESG evaluation (which is the stated reason for this being last). See my comments below, but this seems to me to not have been updated to reflect where the actual EMAN drafts/RFCs ended up. Is that a fair comment? If so, it really should at least be noted in this draft (or fixed!). If not, then I'm confused and my memory must be worse than I thought. - I support Pete's discuss - general: I don't care much if the title confuses this with an AS or not:-) - general: Given the write-up would it be worth re-casting this into the past tense? (Or a part of the abstract and intro at least and then explaining the use of the present tense elsewhere.) - 1.3, 2nd last para: what is a proxy here? - 1.5: EnMS vs NMS - aren't both likely to be pronounced the same by some folks? Is this term used in other EMAN docs? If not, maybe get rid of it as it'd not then be needed perhaps? - 2.11 - I don't recall printers being mentioned in other EMAN docs, but that's probably my fallible memory. - 2.12 - I thought these devices were out of scope for EMAN? If so don't you need to say? If not, then can you explain how I'm confused given that there were a bunch of times Pete and I asked about energy harvesting setups and were told those were not in scope? - 4.1.2.1 - ACPI is mentioned twice but is never expanded never mind explained. Given that this is the power state thing with which most readers of this RFC will be familiar, I think that is quite an omission, and one that ought be fixed. - 4.1.4 refers to a 2011 draft - surely that's been updated or OBE by now? If "draft" here means something sufficiently different from Internet-draft, then that'd be worth explaining. - section 4 generally seems quite US centric, which is a pity. I'm not suggesting you try fix that now, but nonetheless... a pity. - section 5 seems quite outdated if I correctly recall the discussions we had at iesg evaluation of other EMAN documents. Why wasn't this kept in sync with those discussions? - section 6 is bogus - you said EMAN could also use YANG so SNMP is not sufficient here. I would like to have seen a real analysis of the security and privacy issues related to energy management but that seems to still be missing. And again if I recall correctly that was a topic that you de-scoped for other EMAN documents. Yet again that is not recoreded here. - the secdir review [1] also notes the paucity of the security considerations text (and was only responded to by the AD, not by the authors, even though it raises some specific issues). [1] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/secdir/current/msg05257.html - The above two points are not DISCUSSes for a couple of reasons. 1) the charter (sadly) doesn't explicitly call for security or privacy to be considered and clearly this group were not interested in those topics, and 2) there seems to be no hope at all that such work would be done given where the WG are in their life-cycle. I would hope that any newly chartered work on energy management would better take into account these real issues. (And should I still be on the IESG, that'd be more than a "hope":-)
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