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Re: [EME] EME charter

"Fergie" <fergdawg@netzero.net> Mon, 13 November 2006 17:41 UTC

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From: Fergie <fergdawg@netzero.net>
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-- Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com> wrote:

>On 11/13/06 1:10 AM, "Fergie" <fergdawg@netzero.net> wrote:
>> Having said that, I would tend to think that endpoints can defined
>> as the source (originator) & destination addresses in any IP
>> packet.
>
>One layer's endpoint is another layer's middlebox.  For example,
>relays are, unfortunately, increasingly common in VoIP networks
>and while they're effectively transparent to the application
>peers they are being addressed directly.
>

I _did_ say IP, not UDP or TCP. :-)

- ferg
 

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"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
 fergdawg(at)netzero.net
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