Re: [Emu] Adoption call for eap.arpa

Alexander Clouter <alex+ietf@coremem.com> Tue, 12 March 2024 15:56 UTC

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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:55:41 +0000
From: Alexander Clouter <alex+ietf@coremem.com>
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Subject: Re: [Emu] Adoption call for eap.arpa
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On Tue, 12 Mar 2024, at 14:45, Jan-Frederik Rieckers wrote:
> On 12.03.24 13:45, Alexander Clouter wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024, at 12:37, Yanlei(Ray) wrote:
>>> My understanding here is that the EAP server and client will not
>>> authenticate each other in EAP-TLS, and all the authentication will be
>>> done in the " captive portal ". So why recommend EAP-TLS as a
>>> provisioning method? Just send the identifier "portal@eap.arpa" and
>>> then jump to a " captive portal ". Is that OK?
>> 
>> So for OOB provisioning (ie. get an IP to access a captive portal) the conversation would be:
>> 
>> >>> EAP-Identity Request
>> <<< EAP-Identity Response[portal@eap.arpa]
>> >>> EAP-Success
>> 
>> Sounds sensible.
>
> I don't think it's that straight forward.
> For Enterprise-WiFi we still need cryptographic keys for the WiFi 4-way 
> handshake, so establishing a TLS-Tunnel is needed to derive the WPA keys.

Nice catch.

Cheers