Re: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-16.txt

Hi Folks,

I realize that there is frustration with the current document and process.
I ask that we all focus on finishing off the current document so that we
can move it forward.  This does require that we consider the issues on the
table.  I think we are close to the finish line.  I am asking the authors
to help work through the final issues.

Please continue to remain professional in your discussions on the list.

Thanks,

Joe

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com>
wrote:

> On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:20 PM, Mohit Sethi M <mohit.m.sethi@ericsson.com>
> wrote:
> > I find it odd that you claim your suggestions have been ignored or
> rejected.
>
>   So -16 does address my review from May 6?  Could you please go through
> my review of today, and point out in -16 where each of my comments was
> addressed?
>
>   As a reminder, many of those comments go back to my earlier review of
> -13 on March 13.   So we now have -14, -15, and -16 which (so far as I can
> tell) don't address substantial portions of the reviews.
>
> > We have created many issues on github  (
> https://github.com/emu-wg/draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed+Alan)
> and submitted many pull requests addressing your comments (
> https://github.com/emu-wg/draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13/pulls?q=is%3Apr+Alan+is%3Aclosed).
>
> >
> > When I merged this PR in the morning:
> https://github.com/emu-wg/draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13/pull/71, it looked
> like all of your comments had been addressed in the PR. Joe (the other
> co-chair) had approved this PR?
>
>   I had sent a review of -13 on March 3.  And another one May 6.  And
> another today.  The second and third reviews were largely copied from the
> first one.  And contained issues which (so far as I can tell) have not been
> addressed, much less discussed.  These issues do not appear to be addressed
> in that PR.
>
> > As authors of a working group document of a voluntary standards
> organization, we have been doing voluntary service over the last several
> years. We started working on this document in 2018 (
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-mattsson-eap-tls13). You have
> been helping us with the document since the beginning. So thank you for
> your voluntary service as well. While it is not mandatory, helping us with
> github issues/PRs related to your reviews can help us ensure that your
> comments are not inadvertently left unaddressed; and that this community
> effort moves forward faster.
>
>   I'm asking that my reviews be discussed and/or addressed, by the
> authors, in the WG.  I didn't expect to get that particular response.  It
> is distinctly unusual.
>
>   Alan DeKok.
>
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