[Emu] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-emu-pqc-eapaka and draft-ietf-emu-hybrid-pqc-eapaka

John Mattsson <john.mattsson@ericsson.com> Tue, 21 July 2026 06:32 UTC

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From: John Mattsson <john.mattsson@ericsson.com>
To: Wang Guilin <Wang.Guilin@huawei.com>, Peter Yee <peter@akayla.com>, "emu@ietf.org" <emu@ietf.org>
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Subject: [Emu] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-emu-pqc-eapaka and draft-ietf-emu-hybrid-pqc-eapaka
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I tend to agree with Wang. The benefit of draft-ietf-emu-hybrid-pqc-eapaka is that you can combine any two algorithms, but I don’t think EAP-AKA-FS' will have an explosion of algorithms registered. Just registering composite PQ KEMs seems more straightforward.

Cheers,
John Preuß Mattsson

On 2026-07-20, 14:56, "Wang Guilin" <Wang.Guilin@huawei.com> wrote:

Hi, all,

Below is my review on [draft-ietf-emu-hybrid-pqc-eapaka]. My suggestion is DISUSS.

The main reason is that there is a simpler way to enable hybrid KEMs in EAP-AKA', by just registering a new hybrid KEM as a new PQ KEM. I think this is also the main purpose of [I-D.ietf-hpke-pq] and [I-D.irtf-cfrg-hybrid-kems]. Namely, by taking a hybrid KEM as a composite PQ KEM, just following [draft-ietf-emu-pqc-eapaka] will be enough to run a hybrid KEM. This is a big issue, and I do think we should choose this approach, without introducing AT_PUB_HYBRID attribute at all, which is done in this document.

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