RE: [Speermint] and are phone numbers a borken addressing system?
"Pfautz, Penn L, NEO" <ppfautz@att.com> Tue, 07 February 2006 13:50 UTC
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Subject: RE: [Speermint] and are phone numbers a borken addressing system?
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From: "Pfautz, Penn L, NEO" <ppfautz@att.com>
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All neat stuff I'm sure. But it lacks the kind of universality and authoritativeness that are ultimately required for a system that's going to be more than an adjunct, however popular. My point about IM was simply that the major offers don't make much of an attempt to interoperate which puts them where the telephone system was about a century ago when you could only call me if we had the same phone company. Likewise the "non-connected" VoIP systems: how does Googletalk interwork with Skype? Pity, because IP handles the interconnection problem (at layer 3) so elegantly compared to the phone network. The object of Speermint is do bring this elegance to layer 5. I hope we'll do that, but if you want to make the PSTN go away you'll need an industrial strength addressing system. ENUM is great because is marries the good properties of E.164 to the flexibility of the net. I haven't seen anything else that gets the whole job done. My personal view... Penn -----Original Message----- From: Klaus Darilion [mailto:klaus.mailinglists@pernau.at] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:29 AM To: Duane Cc: Pfautz, Penn L, NEO; enum@ietf.org; speermint@ietf.org; Tony Rutkowski; lconroy Subject: Re: [Speermint] Re: [Enum] a suggestion re: using flags todistinguish post-ENUM signaling f lows Duane wrote: > Pfautz, Penn L, NEO wrote: > >> Right now, however, phone numbers are a little like democracy - "the >> worst system imaginable except for all others" >> P2P folks don't seem serious about interoperability (look at IM) and >> only TNs provide reachability from the PSTN. > > > Not entirely true, the guys from Jabber use enum lookups and resolve > Jabber IDs from our zone (e164.org). > > Also we're currently working on plugins for thunderbird/firefox to do > phone number to email/website with the idea of unification on business > cards of 10 different pieces of contact information to just a phone > number if people want to go that route. FYI: There already exists a firefox plugin (firefox 1.0.x only). http://falb.at/enum4firefox/enummapper-0.1.0.xpi regards klaus _______________________________________________ Speermint mailing list Speermint@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/speermint
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