Re: [Enum] Status of draft-ietf-enum-msg
lconroy <lconroy@insensate.co.uk> Wed, 16 February 2005 00:21 UTC
From: lconroy <lconroy@insensate.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:21:17 -0500
To: "Fullbrook Kim (UK)" <"Kim.Fullbrook at O2.COM">
Subject: Re: [Enum] Status of draft-ietf-enum-msg
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Hi Kim, folks, (CC list trimmed) As our esteemed co-chair pointed out, this draft was updated to add clarifications proposed by IESG - i.e. to make it a clearer document and at least tell the poor RFC reader where they can go for more information. It has no substantive changes to the version that was approved ages ago by the WGLC and the IETF LC. It's done, IMHO. [BTW, gentle reader, I'd suggest avoiding 3GPP (or OMA) specs unless you have had at least one cup of coffee/tea first - think RFC340x on steroids :] ---- Your other possible options will have to await an updated RFC if and when formalised specifications for application protocols to be carried over http/https are published and implemented. Also, note that there is some other work (with references to OMA specs) that would *seem* to be applicable to MM1. The group dealing with this is called Lemonade, and I'm sure they'll be able to clarify the use case: See <http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-lemonade-mms-mapping -02.txt> ---- However, you ask some questions that are ENUM-oriented, so - on the list: Re. EMS - this is not only specified in 3GPP but is supported by your network :)p One feature of EMS that's commonly used is also called "long SMS" or "concatenated SMS" in the marketing blah of certain Scandinavian companies. A fine German company does call it EMS in its marketing blah, as that's what it's called in the specs. Your Suit May Vary. -- Re. Tel URIs - I suspect there may be an underlying misunderstanding over the use to which ENUM entries are put. I can register an ENUM domain associated with a telephone number at which I'm provided telephony service - for example, my work landline number. This means that I can put whatever resource records I like into the zone for 6.6.6.3.3.8.4.9.7.1.4.4.e164.arpa, as (at least in the UK ENUM pre-commercial phase) I have this domain registered. If I as an ENUM registrant wanted potential callers to know that they can send me an SMS at a particular phone number, then I could "publish" such a NAPTR in my zone. The NAPTR's generated URI would be the phone number or a device that can handle SMS, whilst the Enumservice would say with what kind of communication the URI was associated. Note that the client doesn't call the eNnumber - it does an ENUM lookup using DNS to the associated zone to get the NAPTRs. That eNumber just happens to be tied to the registered ENUM zone in which I publish the information. Hence a NAPTR with the Enumservice "sms:tel" makes sense if your client can send an SMS to that phone number (e.g. an ENUM client on a mobile phone). If it isn't capable of sending an SMS to that telephone number, then the NAPTR will be discarded as "not interesting" by the client. Note - any SMS-capable device listed in the NAPTR sure isn't my work desk phone; it would be just an SMS-capable handy I had, for which I was willing to publish the phone number, and would indicate to clients what they could do with that phone number. No - there isn't an SMS entry for my eNnumber visible to the "outside world" :). ---- In theory any of these could use ENUM for routing purposes although in practice only the MM4 interface is available outside a given network. Finally, MM3 most certainly is realised - it's how the MMRS sends to email addresses from your mobile phone. It certainly does on Orange, and, local picocell permitting, it does on O2 too. MM4 is another story; less realised, more cobbled together. all the best, Lawrence I'm paid by Roke Manor Research Limited - there the similarity ends. --------------------------------------- lawrence conroy |tel:+44-1794-833666 _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum at ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum
- [Enum] Status of draft-ietf-enum-msg Stastny Richard
- RE: [Enum] Status of draft-ietf-enum-msg Fullbrook Kim (UK)
- RE: [Enum] Status of draft-ietf-enum-msg Richard Shockey
- Re: [Enum] Status of draft-ietf-enum-msg lconroy