Re: [EToSat] Side meeting for Satellite networking tomorrow

Lin Han <lin.han@futurewei.com> Mon, 27 March 2023 13:48 UTC

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From: Lin Han <lin.han@futurewei.com>
To: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>, "116attendees@ietf.org" <116attendees@ietf.org>, "EToSat@ietf.org" <etosat@ietf.org>, "tvr@ietf.org" <tvr@ietf.org>, "rtgwg@ietf.org" <rtgwg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [EToSat] Side meeting for Satellite networking tomorrow
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Hi, Lou

Basically, this side meeting is to discuss the networking issues and explore solutions when using satellite for NTN integration. For example, large scale LEO satellite constellation forms a network by using ISL, and this network should provide the support of internet access or mobile back haul. This is expected from 3GPP perspective in its NTN integration for 5G and beyond.
It is obvious that satellite network has "time variant" behavior, but we will not do any information/data model work charted in TVR. We will only focus other topics, such as:
1. Problem statement and 3GPP's use case
2. Addressing, Routing and switching
3. Mobility, Handover, Multi-path
4. Integration with internet and routes exchanging
If you have more question, you are welcome to join the conference to discuss.

Thanks

Lin


-----Original Message-----
From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 1:46 AM
To: Lin Han <lin.han@futurewei.com>; 116attendees@ietf.org; EToSat@ietf.org; tvr@ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Side meeting for Satellite networking tomorrow

Hi,

Can you explain the relationship between this side meeting and TVR? Is it just a TVR use case?

Thanks,

Lou

On 3/27/2023 3:20 AM, Lin Han wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We will have side meeting for satellite networking tomorrow, Mar. 28, Tuesday, from 11:00AM to 12:30PM local time, in the room G301.
> If you are interested in the similar works, pls join us to discuss.
>
> For the details of the meeting, see https://github.com/lh95129/IETF-116-satellite-network-side-meeting.
> All slides are uploaded in
> https://gith/
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