Re: [EToSat] [116attendees] Side meeting for Satellite networking tomorrow

Interesting meeting. There is race in space. For example, UK satellite
communications provider OneWeb has completed its initial phase of low-earth
orbit (LEO) satellite deployments to provide connectivity services around
the world, especially in hard-to-reach areas. "On Sunday the company
launched 36 satellites in partnership with
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NewSpace
India Limited (NSIL) – the commercial arm of the Indian Space Research
Organisation, bringing its total fleet in space to 618. This means OneWeb’s
constellation is now large enough to provide global coverage, the company
explained in a statement, adding that it will be able to deliver global
connectivity services to enterprises and communities by the end of 2023.
OneWeb’s CEO, Neil Masterson, described the move as “the most significant
milestone in the history of OneWeb,” as the provider has now deployed the
satellite set required for global coverage. Sunil Bharti Mittal, executive
chairman of OneWeb, said this development will help efforts to close the
digital divide globally". Read more
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On Mon, Mar 27, 2023, 7:49 AM Lin Han <lin.han@futurewei.com> wrote:

> Our discussion is not for any existing network. It is for NTN integration
> for 5G and beyond. NTN integration is a big and on-going work in 3gpp. It
> has raised challenges to many technologies, from cell phone to satellite,
> from radio to core network, from antenna to laser, etc. Networking is just
> one area that must be studied.
> Tomorrow we will have more detailed presentation for this.
>
> Regards
>
> Lin
>
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> ------------------------------
> *From:* Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2023 11:28:04 PM
> *To:* 116attendees@ietf.org <116attendees@ietf.org>; Lou Berger <
> lberger@labn.net>; EToSat@ietf.org <etosat@ietf.org>; tvr@ietf.org <
> tvr@ietf.org>; Lin Han <lin.han@futurewei.com>; rtgwg@ietf.org <
> rtgwg@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [116attendees] Side meeting for Satellite networking
> tomorrow
>
> But it’s still not there :) But yes ISL give a ton of interesting routing
> opportunities (with constraints like minimizing energy).
>
> mjm
>
> Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D.
> marie@mjmontpetit.com
>
>
>
> From: Lin Han <lin.han@futurewei.com> <lin.han@futurewei.com>
> Reply: Lin Han <lin.han@futurewei.com> <lin.han@futurewei.com>
> Date: March 27, 2023 at 10:24:57 AM
> To: Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> <marie@mjmontpetit.com>,
> 116attendees@ietf.org <116attendees@ietf.org> <116attendees@ietf.org>, Lou
> Berger <lberger@labn.net> <lberger@labn.net>, EToSat@ietf.org
> <etosat@ietf.org> <etosat@ietf.org>, tvr@ietf.org <tvr@ietf.org>
> <tvr@ietf.org>, rtgwg@ietf.org <rtgwg@ietf.org> <rtgwg@ietf.org>
> Subject:  Re: [116attendees] Side meeting for Satellite networking
> tomorrow
>
> See this https://paxex.aero/starlink-inter-satellite-links/
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> BRs
>
> Lin
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2023, 11:05 PM
> *To:* 116attendees@ietf.org <116attendees@ietf.org>; Lou Berger <
> lberger@labn.net>; EToSat@ietf.org <etosat@ietf.org>; tvr@ietf.org <
> tvr@ietf.org>; Lin Han <lin.han@futurewei.com>; rtgwg@ietf.org <
> rtgwg@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [116attendees] Side meeting for Satellite networking
> tomorrow
>
> LEO satellite constellations with ISL? Which one?
>
> Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D.
> marie@mjmontpetit.com
>
>
>
> From: Lin Han <lin.han@futurewei.com> <lin.han@futurewei.com>
> Reply: Lin Han <lin.han@futurewei.com> <lin.han@futurewei.com>
> Date: March 27, 2023 at 9:48:18 AM
> To: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> <lberger@labn.net>,
> 116attendees@ietf.org <116attendees@ietf.org> <116attendees@ietf.org>,
> EToSat@ietf.org <etosat@ietf.org> <etosat@ietf.org>, tvr@ietf.org
> <tvr@ietf.org> <tvr@ietf.org>, rtgwg@ietf.org <rtgwg@ietf.org>
> <rtgwg@ietf.org>
> Subject:  Re: [116attendees] Side meeting for Satellite networking
> tomorrow
>
> Hi, Lou
>
> Basically, this side meeting is to discuss the networking issues and
> explore solutions when using satellite for NTN integration. For example,
> large scale LEO satellite constellation forms a network by using ISL, and
> this network should provide the support of internet access or mobile back
> haul. This is expected from 3GPP perspective in its NTN integration for 5G
> and beyond.
> It is obvious that satellite network has "time variant" behavior, but we
> will not do any information/data model work charted in TVR. We will only
> focus other topics, such as:
> 1. Problem statement and 3GPP's use case
> 2. Addressing, Routing and switching
> 3. Mobility, Handover, Multi-path
> 4. Integration with internet and routes exchanging
> If you have more question, you are welcome to join the conference to
> discuss.
>
> Thanks
>
> Lin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 1:46 AM
> To: Lin Han <lin.han@futurewei.com>; 116attendees@ietf.org;
> EToSat@ietf.org; tvr@ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Side meeting for Satellite networking tomorrow
>
> Hi,
>
> Can you explain the relationship between this side meeting and TVR? Is it
> just a TVR use case?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou
>
> On 3/27/2023 3:20 AM, Lin Han wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > We will have side meeting for satellite networking tomorrow, Mar. 28,
> Tuesday, from 11:00AM to 12:30PM local time, in the room G301.
> > If you are interested in the similar works, pls join us to discuss.
> >
> > For the details of the meeting, see
> https://github.com/lh95129/IETF-116-satellite-network-side-meeting
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> > All slides are uploaded in
> > https://gith/
> > ub.com
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> > The zoom meeting info is:
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> > Regards
> >
> > Lin
> >
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