Re: [Extra] [EXT] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-10: (with COMMENT)

Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Wed, 07 October 2020 19:07 UTC

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From: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 15:07:44 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Extra] [EXT] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-10: (with COMMENT)
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I had suggested wording for this; did you see it?  Michael?  Rob?

Barry

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 12:43 PM Michael Slusarz
<michael.slusarz=40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
> > On 10/05/2020 2:54 AM Robert Wilton via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
> >
> > One minor comment:
> >
> >    This standardized display can reduce user confusion when using
> >    multiple clients, as abbreviated message representations in clients
> >    will show identical message contents.
> >
> > I didn't really find this reasoning to be compelling, and perhaps it could be
> > removed.  In my experience the amount of preview displayed depends on client
> > behaviour or settings (e.g., how much space to allow for previews).
>
> Hypothetical: a message with two alternative parts - text and HTML.  The text part is a "your client doesn't support HTML message" placeholder, the HTML part is the "real" data.  One client may try to create a preview out of the most feature-rich alternative (HTML); another will create a preview out of the first sequential text part it finds.  Another example would be competency in HTML -> plaintext parsing.
>
> I will agree that user confusion is not a major issue if preview display differs based on UI concerns: Are the first 40 characters displayed or the first 100 characters?  However, if the content is vastly different then I do think there is chances for confusion, especially for users that use previews as a way to contextually scan their mailboxes.
>
> "Consistent previews across clients" was a product ask when this feature was first being developed.  Is it the most important feature?  Maybe not.  But it seems important enough to justify a mention since it does clean up, at best, a minor annoyance and, at worst, a real source of confusion that end-users have complained about in the past.
>
> michael
>