Re: [Fecframe] Fwd: IESG Eval followup: config-signaling anf rtp-raptor
"Ali C. Begen (abegen)" <abegen@cisco.com> Thu, 10 November 2011 02:21 UTC
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From: "Ali C. Begen (abegen)" <abegen@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Fwd: IESG Eval followup: config-signaling anf rtp-raptor
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I prefer it to be informational FWIW. -acbegen > -----Original Message----- > From: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:fecframe-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Greg Shepherd > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 11:30 PM > To: Rajiv Asati (rajiva); fecframe@ietf.org > Subject: [Fecframe] Fwd: IESG Eval followup: config-signaling anf rtp-raptor > > *, > > There are a few things holding up the config-sig draft, but the one we > need to help with is: > > MUST this doc progress as experimental, or is there WG consensus to > move it to informational? > > Please reply promptly to the list. > > Thanks!, > Greg > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Harrington <ietfdbh@comcast.net> > Date: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:23 AM > Subject: IESG Eval followup: config-signaling anf rtp-raptor > To: gjshep@gmail.com > Cc: draft-ietf-fecframe-config-signaling@tools.ietf.org, > draft-ietf-fecframe-rtp-raptor@tools.ietf.org > > > Hi, > > The IESG reviewed the config signaling and rtp-raptor drafts. > We have work to do. > > config-signaling: > 1) Can we publish this as Informational? > Is that a problem for any cross-SDO work? > If this is published as Informational, then compliance is no > longer appropriate - you don't comply to an Informational document. so > the RFC2119 keywords should disappear. > > 2) Ask the WG which version of GDOI is supposed to be used? See Sean's > Comments. > > 3) The document needs a good rewrite, especialy the Abstract and > Introduction. There are Discusses and Comments from many that the > document doesn't describe its purpose. This must be clairified. > > 4) There are Discusses and Comments from multiple ADs that must be > addressed: > Ron: just remove the reference; I don't know if you want to carry any > information from that expired mboned doc into this doc. > Adrian: clarify what is considered a signaling protocol in this doc > Gonzalo: no RFC2119 keywords in the Introduction (so normative text > must be moved) > Jari: internal references (are you using xml2rfc? they have ways to > keep that in sync for you) > clarify how you expect this to be used re: SDP, XML, etc. > Russ: Gen-ART review > Sean: "MAY encrypt" > MUST is for implementers - see RFC 3365 - unless this is > Informational. > GDOI - explain how to use this. Clarify which version. > Stephen: "MAY encrypt" => "SHOULD encrypt using PGP or CMS"? > GDOI - how to use to manage keys? > Pete: If Informational, then you can ignore his comment; If > Experimental, then describe the experiment. > Robert: new versus copied requirements; point to the existing rules > rather than copying them here. > The #2 comment is critical - are implementers supposed to > choose from one of these protocols > (i.e., these are the only ones allowed in a compliant > Experimental implementation?) > > rpt-raptor: > 1) A registration request must be sent to ietf-types@iana.org to > register the types, per section 5.1 of RFC 4288. The registration > template needs to be filled in > > 2) There are discusses from Sean, Pete, Robert and Stephen that must > be addressed, and Comments from Russ (the Gen-ART review) that should > be addressed in a Revised ID. I think the usage of RFC2119 keywords is > acceptable, but might be improved. Please read and **consider** Pete's > comments on RFC2119 usage, and then do what you think is right. > > Please get these Revised IDs done asap so I can send them off to the > RFC Editor. > > David Harrington > Director, IETF Transport Area > ietfdbh@comcast.net (preferred for ietf) > dbharrington@huaweisymantec.com > +1 603 828 1401 (cell) > _______________________________________________ > Fecframe mailing list > Fecframe@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe
- [Fecframe] Fwd: IESG Eval followup: config-signal… Greg Shepherd
- Re: [Fecframe] Fwd: IESG Eval followup: config-si… Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [Fecframe] IESG Eval followup: config-signali… Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [Fecframe] IESG Eval followup: config-signali… David Harrington
- Re: [Fecframe] IESG Eval followup: config-signali… Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [Fecframe] IESG Eval followup: config-signali… David Harrington