Re: [Fud] Revised Charter Text

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Tue, 26 September 2017 16:59 UTC

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> On Sep 26, 2017, at 18:41, Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Carsten
> 
> for us RFC 4108 served as a great starting point since it contains a lot
> of well thought components. But that's just us.

There is no doubt about RFC 4108 being a good input.

Let me try explain my point in an analogy: if the QUIC WG had said it wants to do TLS 1.4, there might have been about the same misunderstanding (and QUIC certainly does use TLS as a great starting point).

Grüße, Carsten


> 
> So, the question is what updated sentence would you suggest?
> 
> Ciao
> Hannes
> 
> On 09/26/2017 01:23 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>>> Firmware Updating Description (FUD)
>>> [Alternative proposal: SUIT (Software Updates for Internet of Things).]
>> 
>> SUIT is so much better than FUD.
>> 
>> (When we created the DICE working group, which was about “Improvements to DTLS for the Internet of Things”, we got some strong feedback that people weren’t going to install “IDIOT” modifications into their systems.
>> I think the same applies for “FUD”.  And the suits will quickly agree with installing SUIT :-))
>> 
>>> The
>>> purpose of this group is to standardize a version 2 of RFC 4108
>> 
>> I think this (part of the) sentence can be misunderstood, and it does not mesh with the rest of the charter.
>> 
>> The possible misunderstanding of this sentence is that this is going to be a “let’s fix the bugs in and make some tweaks to RFC 4108” WG.
>> 
>> The rest of the charter does not say this, but misunderstanding that sentence may make people read that rest under the presumption that bugfixing/tweaking RFC 4108 is all that is going to happen.
>> 
>> Grüße, Carsten
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