Re: [gaia] Remote Peering Discussion at GAIA 117

Kurtis - I wonder if some folks do want to “MASQUE” BGP by sending traffic from CDN to CDN using MASQUE over QUIC, setting up encrypted tunnels Just talked to someone here at IETF about MASQUE/QUIC Takes traffic to app level and sets up secure tunnels . It might be too wonky in some networks? 

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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 14:16, Steven G. Huter <sghuter@nsrc.org> wrote:
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> On 7/27/23 1:54 PM, Kurtis Heimerl wrote:
>> Great link! I was struck by this: " logic is the same; remote peering removes the colocation, equipment and circuit cost from the equation and replaces those costs with a metered transport alternative."
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>> I assume we can develop an extension to BGP that does that without obfuscating the important routing information, right? 
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>> Again with the caveat of "we're sorta already doing this" that underlies so much of my confusion in this space. 
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> Hi Kurtis
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> How do you tell the difference (in network terms) between an ISP in South Asia showing up at DE-CIX Frankfurt on their own (buying an IPLC), versus, an ISP connecting to DE-CIX Johor Baru in Malaysia and then paying DE-CIX for a VRF to Frankfurt?
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> Both of these examples are remote peering, but two different implementations. For the former, the ISP knows what occurs with their 10Gbps of capacity. With the latter, how do you know the total number of others with whom you are sharing the capacity? What happens when the underlying capacity is oversubscribed and you don't know it? 
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> Why is peering in another continent a Good Thing when 80% of Internet traffic is now from the hyperscalers who are increasingly localized for their content delivery?
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> Lots of other potential research questions. 
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> This is certainly an interesting public conversation to have and I'm glad it came up in the GAIA meeting.
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> Steve
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