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Re: [gaia] draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments. Mitar review, question #7: MAC protocols

"Jose Saldana" <jsaldana@unizar.es> Thu, 14 April 2016 08:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [gaia] draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments. Mitar review, question #7: MAC protocols
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Hi, Max.
 
Sorry, I am not an expert on this. Could you provide a summary of these two things? I mean, they are to be added as non-standard use of 802.11, so we should focus on that.
 
1) What is the non-standard use of 802.11 in libre-mesh.org?
 
2) Is the non-standard part of sudomesh the use of 802.11n in adhoc mode? Could you provide a couple of sentences explaining it?
 
Thanks in advance!
 
Jose
 
De: Max B [mailto:maxb.personal@gmail.com] 
Enviado el: miércoles, 13 de abril de 2016 19:38
Para: Jose Saldana <jsaldana@unizar.es>; 'Mitar' <mmitar@gmail.com>
CC: 'gaia' <gaia@irtf.org>
Asunto: Re: [gaia] draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments. Mitar review, question #7: MAC protocols
 
Here's a diagram showing a mix of layer 2 and 3 for theoretically better roaming support:

https://libre-mesh.org/projects/libre-mesh/wiki/Network_Architecture?version=10

As for something like 802.11n adhoc mode, sudomesh - the group that I'm part of - is leveraging ath9k support to use 802.11n adhoc mode.

We probably have some reference documentation of that somewhere on our wiki. If it's not there I can add it....
On April 13, 2016 9:21:18 AM PDT, Jose Saldana <jsaldana@unizar.es <mailto:jsaldana@unizar.es> > wrote:
Hi,
 -----Mensaje original-----
 De: Mitar [mailto:mmitar@gmail.com]
 Enviado el: miércoles, 13 de abril de 2016 11:37
 Para: Jose Saldana <jsaldana@unizar.es <mailto:jsaldana@unizar.es> >
 CC: gaia <gaia@irtf.org <mailto:gaia@irtf.org> >
 Asunto: Re: [gaia] draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments. Mitar review,
 question #7: MAC protocols
 
 Hi!
 
 This would be the new version of this subsection:
 
 It sounds good.
 
 You are right. We have only briefly summarized each of the most
 popular standards, trying to focus on the characteristics t!
 hat
make
 them suitable for Alternative networks: kilometers, requirements,
 standards especially suited for ANs (e.g. WILD). We also talk about the maximum
 rates.
 
 In this case it might be interesting to also look into non-standard behavior done with
 such WiFi devices. For example, running them in ad-hoc mode even in N protocol
 (which by standard does not have that mode). Or using L2 routing protocol like
 Batman advanced to get roaming support in community networks. (For this latter
 thing I am not sure if it should be under this section or routing.)

Does anyone have any example or reference of an Alternative Network using these things?
 
 So i!
 t is a
matter of style if we remove some content from this
 section, I think. I would not touch it.
 
 OK.
 
 
 Mitar
 
 --
 http://mitar.tnode.com/
 https://twitter.com/mitar_m

Thanks,

Jose


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