Re: [Gen-art] [mpls] review: draft-ietf-mpls-extended-admin-group-05

That works for me.
Thank you Eric.
Yours,
Joel

On 4/25/14, 11:28 AM, Eric Osborne wrote:
> Works for me.
> So
>
> " The EAG sub-TLV is used in addition to the Administrative Groups
> when an operator wants to make more than 32 colors available for
> advertisement in a network"
>
> I had gone back and forth with Adrian on language to scope this to a
> single LSDB, so as to avoid the discussion of signaling EAG desire in
> RSVP or PCEP.  I don't want to add that sort of disclaimer here too,
> as it makes the sentence clunky and unweildy.
>
>
>
> eric
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Joel Halpern Direct
> <jmh.direct@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
>> What if instead of "on the link" it is simoply "in the network".  This
>> recommend the use of EAG whenever the operators is using more than 32 colors
>> across the link.  It thus actually better aligns with avoiding the
>> under-claiming issue by suggesting that operators should use the EAG if they
>> have more than 32 candidate colors.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Joel
>>
>> PS: substituting wants for wishes is probably reasonable.  If we talk about
>> network-wide you might even be able to us "intends".
>>
>>
>> On 4/25/14, 10:06 AM, Eric Osborne wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Joel-
>>>
>>>     Thanks for the review.  On your minor issue:
>>> ---
>>>    I believe it is more accurate to say that it is to be used "when a
>>> node wishes to advertise colors for a link which are not represented
>>> in the first 32 bits of the color mask."  The node may only wish to
>>> advertise colors 7 and 60, but that will require the EAG.
>>> ---
>>>
>>> I see your point, but I'm having trouble coming up with obvious text.
>>> Deciding which colors are represented in a color mask is up to the
>>> operator, which means it would have to say something like
>>>
>>> "when a node wishes to advertise colors for a link which the operator
>>> has defined to be outside the first 32 bits of the color mask".
>>>
>>> but this would be the only use of 'color mask' in the document, and
>>> it's not one I've seen used in any other docs around link coloring.
>>>
>>> The whole sentence you refer to is:
>>>
>>> " The EAG sub-TLV is used in addition to the Administrative Groups
>>> when a node wishes to advertise more than 32 colors for a link."
>>>
>>> If I rephrased it as
>>>
>>> " The EAG sub-TLV is used in addition to the Administrative Groups
>>> when an operator wants to make more than 32 colors available for
>>> advertisement on a link"
>>>
>>> would that do it?
>>> s/wishes/wants/ while I'm here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on
>>>> Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at
>>>>
>>>> <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>.
>>>>
>>>> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments
>>>> you may receive.
>>>>
>>>> Document: draft-ietf-mpls-extended-admin-group-05
>>>>       Extended Administrative Groups in MPLS-TE
>>>> Reviewer: Joel M. Halpern
>>>> Review Date: 24-April-2014
>>>> IETF LC End Date: 06-May-2014
>>>> IESG Telechat date: N/A
>>>>
>>>> Summary: This document is ready for publication as a Proposed Standards
>>>> RFC
>>>>
>>>> Major issues: N/A
>>>>
>>>> Minor issues:
>>>>       I believe that the description of when to use this EAG is slightly
>>>> misleading.  The text says that EAG is to be used "when a node wishes to
>>>> advertise more than 32 colors for a link."  I believe it is more accurate
>>>> to
>>>> say that it is to be used "when a node wishes to advertise colors for a
>>>> link
>>>> which are not represented in the first 32 bits of the color mask."  The
>>>> node
>>>> may only wish to advertise colors 7 and 60, but that will require the
>>>> EAG.
>>>>
>>>> Nits/editorial comments: N/A
>>>>
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