Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-lamps-5480-ku-clarifications-00
worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Fri, 21 February 2020 02:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-lamps-5480-ku-clarifications-00
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Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> writes: >>> From the discussion it appears that id-ecDH and id-ecMQV are "key >> agreement algorithms" and that, as such, they should not be used with >> keyEncipherment or dataEncipherment. [this draft, section 3] >> Conversely, id-ecPublicKey is not a "key agreement algorithm". [RFC >> 5480, section 2.1.2, para. 1, sentence 1] > > Ah ... this might be where some of misunderstanding comes from because > id-ecPublicKey MAY be a key agreement algorithm that is why it is > "unrestricted". In other words, when key agreement certificates can I assume that "when" in the above line should be omitted. > include the following OIDs: id-ecDH (for an EC DH algorithm), id-ecMQV > (for EC MQV), or id-ecPublicKey (for any algorithm). Here's the text > from 5480 about id-ecPublicKey being used as key agreement algrithm: > > If the keyUsage extension is present in an End Entity (EE) > certificate that indicates id-ecPublicKey in SubjectPublicKeyInfo, > then any combination of the following values MAY be present: > > digitalSignature; > nonRepudiation; and > keyAgreement. I'm still finding this an uphill climb. If I understand you correctly, "key agreement" is not an attribute of an algorithm per se, but rather an attribute of a certificate. And thus id-ecPublicKey may be specified in a key agreement certificate (that is, one with keyAgreement), but can also be specified in non-key agreement certificates (that is, ones without keyAgrement). But id-ecDH and id-ecMQV may only be used in key agreement certificates, and in that sense they can be considered "key agreement algorithms". Is that correct? Dale
- [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-l… Dale Worley via Datatracker
- Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ie… Sean Turner
- Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ie… Tadahiko Ito
- Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ie… Dale R. Worley
- Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ie… Sean Turner
- Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ie… worley
- [Gen-art] draft-ietf-lamps-5480-ku-clarifications… worley
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-ietf-lamps-5480-ku-clarificat… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-ietf-lamps-5480-ku-clarificat… Sean Turner
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-ietf-lamps-5480-ku-clarificat… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-ietf-lamps-5480-ku-clarificat… Russ Housley