[Gen-art] Re: Gen-ART review of draft-hansen-2717bis-2718bis-uri-guidelines-05.txt

Tony Hansen <tony@att.com> Tue, 23 August 2005 15:06 UTC

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Subject: [Gen-art] Re: Gen-ART review of draft-hansen-2717bis-2718bis-uri-guidelines-05.txt
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How about:

   Avoid names or other symbols that might have problems with
   the 'ownership' or rights to use the name in Internet protocols.
   For example, be careful with trademark and service mark names.
   (Also see section 7.4 of RFC 3978.)

	Tony

Spencer Dawkins wrote:
>>> - 2.8 tries to say, "avoid trademark names", but doesn't say much
>>> about why this is a good idea, or (more relevant) how big a problem
>>> you have when someone registers your scheme name as trademark. The
>>> current text is probably good advice, I'm just asking if there is
>>> more guidance that could be provided, too.
>>
>> I think this is pretty fuzzy advice, alas. And there might be some
>> dragons (or at least aligators) waiting in those waters.  I don't
>> expect the "expert" doing "expert review" to review whether there is
>> a legal trademark and whether the proposed registration is or isn't
>> consistent with that trademark, in the various jurisdictions of the
>> world.
>>
>> I guess we should ask the person submitting the registration to
>> assert that, as far as they know, the use of the URI scheme name
>> doesn't have trademark problems. I might want some advice on how
>> to word that, though.
> 
> This would be very reasonable (once you figure out what the words should
> be!).
> 
> It may be that all you're trying to do is call the submitter's attention
> to section 7.4 of http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3978.txt, and say, "please
> do your best to keep us from getting sued if we come up with a scheme
> name that turns out to be a trademark" (a lawyer would, of course, say
> it differently :-)) This is actually less restrictive than the current
> text (current text discourages uses of trademarks, 3978 discourages use
> of trademarks unless the IETF has a right to use them in
> specifications), I think.
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