Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-karp-isis-analysis-04

[Uma Chunduri <[e-mail]>]

Hi Brian,

Thanks for your consideration and for providing the modified text quickly.  That works and it's a great help.
Shall update this in the next version.
--
Uma C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:[e-mail]] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 1:32 PM
To: Uma Chunduri; [e-mail]; General Area Review Team
Subject: Re: Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-karp-isis-analysis-04

Hi Uma,

See below...
On 30/06/2015 06:19, Uma Chunduri wrote:
> Hi Brian,
> 
> Thanks for your review (apologies for the delay from my side). 
> Response i-line [Uma]:
> 
> --
> Uma C.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:37 PM
> To: [e-mail]; General Area Review 
> Team
> Subject: Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-karp-isis-analysis-04
> 
> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>.
> 
> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments you may receive.
> 
> Document: draft-ietf-karp-isis-analysis-04.txt
> Reviewer: Brian Carpenter
> Review Date: 2015-06-13
> IETF LC End Date: 2015-07-03
> IESG Telechat date:
> 
> Summary:  Almost ready
> --------
> 
> Minor Issue:
> ------------
> 
>> 3.2.  Key Management Protocols
> 
> I don't like the references to expired drafts. These drafts almost have the flavour of normative references, since apparently they described recommended mitigation techniques. If they matter, they should be properly available.
> draft-weis-gdoi-mac-tek-03
> draft-yeung-g-ikev2-08
> draft-hartman-karp-mrkmp-05
> 
> [Uma]:  Sure. But to give a bit context quickly -
> 
> KARP WG started working on group keying protocol based on IKEv2 when I used these references. But, later scope is changed and this aspect didn't go forward as expected. 
> So I would remove the references to draft-yeung-g-ikev2-08 and 
> draft-hartman-karp-mrkmp-05.  However, though expired, I would like to 
> keep the reference for
>  draft-weis-gdoi-mac-tek-03 and  associated RFC 6407, so in future it can present a good reference to GDOI in this context.  Hope this is acceptable else I shall remove this too. 

Thanks for the answer. I am still a bit concerned that a reader will be slightly confused, though. Can I suggest trying to rephrase the sentence a bit, something like:

OLD:
   A mechanism,
   similar to as described in [I-D.weis-gdoi-mac-tek] can be used to
   distribute group keys to a group of ISes in Level-1 area or Level-2
   domain, using GDOI as specified in [RFC6407].

NEW:
   A mechanism is needed to distribute group keys to a group of ISes
   in a Level-1 area or Level-2 domain, using the Group Domain of
   Interpretation (GDOI) protocol as specified in [RFC6407]. An example
   policy and payload format was described in [I-D.weis-gdoi-mac-tek].

Regards
    Brian