Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC review of draft-leiba-5322upd-from-group-06

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Thu, 18 October 2012 00:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC review of draft-leiba-5322upd-from-group-06
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On 10/17/2012 5:18 PM, Ned Freed wrote:
> If you really think this is important to explain why we're making
> this change against the overall context of RFC 5322 - and I most
> certainly do not agree that it is important to do so - then the best
> "use case" to add is the negative one: The elimination of an
> unnecessary restriction that isn't followed in practice.
>
> I see no way to explain the narrow EAI use case in this context
> without either dragging in a whole bunch of EAI that has no business
> being here or leaving various things dangling.


ack. mumble.

So I'll suggest a bit of an amalgam, including a cross reference of the 
type I prefer to avoid:

    1. State that this removes a restriction that was never essential.

    2. State that the timing of this removal is to accomodate EAI and 
for its use of the now-available features, see [RFCxxxx].

d/


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