Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for draft-nottingham-gendispatch-discuss-criteria-01.txt

No worries, I should have copied it here for visibility. It is:

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This document is currently a copy of the DISCUSS criteria published at https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/iesg-discuss-criteria/; the only changes are to the material in the Introduction regarding the status of the document.

As such, it serves as a proposal: to put control over the criteria that the IESG uses to evaluate documents in the hands of the IETF community.

Because the balloting system is not defined by RFC, an unresolved issue is how that should be referred to. Two possible options are a) also publishing it a BCP, or b) abstracting this document to talk about the general criteria that the IESG can use to hold up publication of a document, without using the 'DISCUSS' terminology.

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Cheers,

> On 24 Jul 2023, at 4:22 pm, Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I managed to miss that completely.  An understandable goal.  And the note completely answers the question I asked and should have prevented it.
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Joel
> 
> On 7/24/2023 7:20 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote:
>> As the note says, this is an exact copy of the current DISCUSS criteria, except where the Introduction talks about the document's status.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Jul 2023, at 4:16 pm, Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It would be interesting to have an informative section of the draft explaining where this matches and / or differs from the existing IESG discuss policy.  (One obvious place is the addition of using DISUCSS to say "no", but I presume there are others.)
>>> Yours,
>>> Joel
>>> On 7/24/2023 5:02 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote:
>>>> Hi GENDISPATCH!
>>>> 
>>>> Would it be possible to get some of the unused time in this week's meeting to dispatch this draft?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
>>>>> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham-gendispatch-discuss-criteria-01.txt
>>>>> Date: 24 July 2023 at 2:02:02 pm GMT-7
>>>>> To: "Mark Nottingham" <mnot@mnot.net>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> A new version of I-D, draft-nottingham-gendispatch-discuss-criteria-01.txt
>>>>> has been successfully submitted by Mark Nottingham and posted to the
>>>>> IETF repository.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Name: draft-nottingham-gendispatch-discuss-criteria
>>>>> Revision: 01
>>>>> Title: DISCUSS Criteria
>>>>> Document date: 2023-07-24
>>>>> Group: Individual Submission
>>>>> Pages: 9
>>>>> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-nottingham-gendispatch-discuss-criteria-01.txt
>>>>> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nottingham-gendispatch-discuss-criteria/
>>>>> Html:           https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-nottingham-gendispatch-discuss-criteria-01.html
>>>>> Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-nottingham-gendispatch-discuss-criteria
>>>>> Diff:           https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-nottingham-gendispatch-discuss-criteria-01
>>>>> 
>>>>> Abstract:
>>>>>   This document describes the role of the 'DISCUSS' position in the
>>>>>   IESG review process.  It gives some guidance on when a DISCUSS should
>>>>>   and should not be issued.  It also discusses procedures for DISCUSS
>>>>>   resolution.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The IETF Secretariat
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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