Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-04.txt

Stephen, we added the text "and recognizing that analysis of antitrust 
considerations will be different for differently-positioned 
participants" to try to address your concern about different roles.  If 
we water it down much more, it ceases to be a useful warning for the 
many IETF participants who do need this perspective.  And we are trying 
to be clear (thus red vs yellow) about there being different degreees of 
risk associated with different aspects.

I am having trouble seeing how to meet the needs I see with the concern 
you have for your particular case.  (It is not even all academics, since 
many academic institutions also engage in profitable business / 
licensing / ...)

Yours,

Joel

On 1/23/2023 5:08 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>
> Hiya,
>
> I still don't like 4.1 as I don't consider I have competitors
> at the IETF in any sense related to anti-trust. 4.1 is also
> getting more wishy-washy ("avoid", "best mitigates") for what
> are understandable reasons, so the "red flag" (or "yellow")
> metaphors would probably now be better removed.
>
> WRT the dispatch question, I'd be fine with this being AD
> sponsored and having an IETF last call after some more
> community discussion. I don't think it's ready for IETF LC
> yet.
>
> Cheers,
> S.
>
> On 23/01/2023 17:21, Joel Halpern wrote:
>> The authors of this draft have posted a revision.  We have attempted 
>> to address the comments that were made, while preserving the 
>> approach.  The edits are relatively small, but scattered so I 
>> recommend using the diff tool to see what we changed.  (I hope I 
>> fixed all the typos people caught, and didn't introduce too many new 
>> ones.)
>>
>> We are happy to discuss whether we have resolved the concerns that 
>> were raised, and would like to see discussion of how to dispatch 
>> this.  If there is meaningful and unresolved discussion, we would 
>> hope to bring those issues to the session in Yokohama.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Joel
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject:     I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-04.txt
>> Date:     Mon, 23 Jan 2023 09:15:24 -0800
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>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
>> directories.
>>
>>
>> Title : Antitrust Guidelines for IETF Participants
>> Authors : Joel M. Halpern
>> Brad Biddle
>> Jay Daley
>> Filename : draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-04.txt
>> Pages : 8
>> Date : 2023-01-23
>>
>> Abstract:
>> This document provides guidance for IETF participants on compliance
>> with antitrust laws and how to reduce antitrust risks in connection
>> with IETF activities.
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust/
>>
>> There is also an HTML version available at:
>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-04.html 
>>
>>
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-04 
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