[Gendispatch] Re: url/web-trackers and IETF mailing lists

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Tue, 08 July 2025 21:55 UTC

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2025 14:54:30 -0700
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Hi Rich,
At 11:38 AM 6/26/2025, Salz, Rich wrote:
><https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richardson-no-trackers-in-archives/>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richardson-no-trackers-in-archives/
>
>I think this is a bad idea. I think the idea of the IETF doing any 
>kind of modification to what gets put in its archives is the start 
>of a very slippery slope. It is also very fragile. For example, 
>suppose a corporation purchases a common URL shortener (bitly, 
>tinyurl, etc) and decides to monetize it somehow. Do we go back and 
>undo all those links? Would that even be possible?

Here's are some minutes from a few years ago: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2021-emodir-01-202111301600/ 
I don't see why the datatracker URL should be wrapped into a 
urldefense.com URL.

Here's another one: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-122-6lo/  The following is 
from a group discussing privacy: 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ppm/WcqiaFje9ZaKduCeNZsWLGfVWhc/ 
There are other instances of those URLs in the mail archive.

I would change the question to using a URL shortener to track what 
the competition is doing.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy