Re: [Geopriv] [Ecrit] Location Determination Platforms in DSL wholesale inCanada

"Hannes Tschofenig" <Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net> Sun, 09 August 2009 06:59 UTC

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From: Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net>
To: 'Francois Menard' <fmenard@xittel.net>, 'ecrit' <ecrit@ietf.org>, geopriv@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Geopriv] [Ecrit] Location Determination Platforms in DSL wholesale inCanada
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Hi Francois, 

>Q. is HELD meant to be used as a PIDF-LO carrying protocol 
>between two LISes and is there any standards track work done 
>at the IETF to make this happen? 

A: The LIS-to-LIS communication is provided by the usage of 
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-winterbottom-geopriv-held-identity-extensions
-09.txt
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-geopriv-held-measurements-04

For a bit more background there is another document: 
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-winterbottom-geopriv-held-lis2lis-bcp-00

Ciao
Hannes

>
>F.
>
>On 8-Aug-09, at 7:20 PM, Winterbottom, James wrote:
>
>> Francois,
>>
>> Why do you think that this mailing list has any more insight 
>into this 
>> than you do?
>> Why don't you simply ask the ILECs what they mean?
>>
>> Regards
>> James
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ecrit-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of Francois Menard
>> Sent: Sat 8/8/2009 10:39 AM
>> To: ecrit
>> Subject: [Ecrit] Location Determination Platforms in DSL 
>wholesale in 
>> Canada
>>
>>
>> In yesterday's submission to the CRTC, the ILECs have submitted the
>> following:
>>
>> ---
>> For wholesale, the ILEC LDP will interact with the Wholesale ISP by 
>> responding to HELD location requests at the IP address 
>assignment time 
>> by the Wholesale ISP.
>>
>> The Wholesale ISP will be responsible to update the ILEC LIS 
>> accordingly and in a timely fashion.
>> ----
>>
>> This language is very confusing to me.
>>
>> Does this mean that we are enabling LIS to LIS 
>communications via HELD 
>> ?
>>
>> Question to the group:
>>
>> 1) What forms the query of the ISP into the ILEC LDP?
>>
>> 2) What forms the response of the ILEC LDP to the Wholesale 
>ISP inside 
>> the HELD location request?
>>
>> 3) What forms the push update of the Wholesale ISP into the ILEC LIS?
>>
>> I have my suspicion that the ILEC has just devised a PIDF-LO 
>carrying 
>> protocol in the form of HELD based on a L2TP AAA data 
>atypical of DSL 
>> wholesale.
>>
>> Your enlightments will be great as the ILEC submission is mute on 
>> this.
>>
>> F.
>>
>> --
>> Francois Menard
>> fmenard@xittel.net
>>
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