Re: [Geopriv] Another Update to draft-ietf-geopriv-loc-filters-05.txt

"Hannes Tschofenig" <Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net> Fri, 17 July 2009 10:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Another Update to draft-ietf-geopriv-loc-filters-05.txt
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Hi Martin, 

>Thanks Hannes,
>
>responseTime is a bit of a concern.
>
>At a minimum, responseTime is a separate item from 
>locationType.  That will simplify your description a little.


Since there is no top level XML element I could only define it as a separate
XML element. That's fine but I believe it does not change a lot.  

>More seriously: I'm not entirely sure how to interpret 
>responseTime in the context of a SIP PA.  This might work as 
>you have described, but I would suggest that it complicates 
>things considerably.  There's discussion on this point in my 
>draft here:
>
><http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-simple-cont-presence-
>val-req-02#section-4.6.1.1>
>
>I don't know how to solve this problem yet.
>

I am not sure I see the problems.

Imagine a SIP proxy receives a SIP message with an LbyR and wants to
retrieve location information for routing. Depending on the URI scheme (HTTP
vs. SIP) he would either use 
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-winterbottom-geopriv-deref-protocol-03.txt
Or 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-geopriv-loc-filters-04.txt

For
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-winterbottom-geopriv-deref-protocol-03.txt he
could use the 'responseTime' attribute set to "emergencyRouting". 

When a 'responseTime' attribute is used with
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-geopriv-loc-filters-04.txt
then hopefully the semantic would be the same. Instead of returning location
information that is good for dispatch location information usable for
routing would be returned. 

Ciao
Hannes

>--Martin
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: geopriv-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:geopriv-bounces@ietf.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig
>> Sent: Wednesday, 15 July 2009 6:25 PM
>> To: geopriv@ietf.org
>> Subject: [Geopriv] Another Update to draft-ietf-geopriv-loc-filters- 
>> 05.txt
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Here is another update to 
>draft-ietf-geopriv-loc-filters-05.txt based 
>> on the feedback from Martin. The changes are:
>> 
>> * added the <locationType> element (including the 'exact' and 
>> 'responseTime'
>> attribute). I re-used the text from the HELD specification and 
>> modified as appropriately.
>> * fixed the civic prefix in the example (again)
>> * modified the schema to pick up the suggestion regarding 
>the <moved> 
>> and the <enterOrExit> element.
>> 
>> The new document is here:
>> http://www.tschofenig.priv.at/svn/Filters/draft-ietf-geopriv-loc-
>> filters-05.
>> txt
>> 
>> Ciao
>> Hannes
>> 
>> PS: When including the text about <locationType> element two issues 
>> that might need to get discussed, namely the ability to 
>carry multiple 
>> PIDF- Los (or to include multiple representations of the location in 
>> the same
>> PIDF-LO)
>> in a NOTIFY and the need to define some error messages 
>(e.g., to tell 
>> the Notifier that the requested locationType is actually not 
>> available).
>> 
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