[Green] Re: Next steps for draft-many-lsr-power-group-02
Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li> Tue, 05 May 2026 18:21 UTC
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Subject: [Green] Re: Next steps for draft-many-lsr-power-group-02
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Hi Carlos, > The intent is simply to ensure that the evaluation captures the net system-level impact (i.e., whether the mechanisms enable sufficient consolidation to reduce overall energy consumption relative to a baseline.) In other words, the considering both sides: the additional overhead introduced, and the potential energy savings from traffic consolidation and resource idling. How is the simulation / premise / framework evaluating net >0 or <0? Thank you for the clarification, but I still cannot answer. It depends. If the network is running at 98% of capacity throughout, then there is nothing that can be done. No savings, so no benefit. If the network is running at 10% of capacity, then it’s very likely that 70-80% of the network can be shut down (depending on the operator's redundancy requirements), What we have seen is that our simulations have shown excellent benefits, but the exact number vary greatly, again depending on the traffic demand, topology, hardware, etc. I get that you want an easy answer. I’m sorry to say that as with many things in life, there is none. This technology will help networks that have substantial variance in their traffic demand, and not at all with networks that run continually saturated. And in between, it will give some benefit, but your mileage may vary. Whether it’s enough to matter depends on your personal situation and the price of power. Tony
- [Green] Next steps for draft-many-lsr-power-group… Christian Hopps
- [Green] Re: Next steps for draft-many-lsr-power-g… Tony Li
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Next steps for draft-many-lsr-p… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Re: Next steps for draft-many-l… Colby Barth
- [Green] Re: Next steps for draft-many-lsr-power-g… Carlos Pignataro
- [Green] Re: Next steps for draft-many-lsr-power-g… Tony Li
- [Green] Re: Next steps for draft-many-lsr-power-g… Robert Raszuk
- [Green] Re: Next steps for draft-many-lsr-power-g… Robert Raszuk
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Re: Re: Next steps for draft-ma… Joel Halpern
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Re: Re: Next steps for draft-ma… Robert Raszuk
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Re: Re: Next steps for draft-ma… Tony Li
- [Green] Re: Next steps for draft-many-lsr-power-g… Carlos Pignataro
- [Green] Re: Next steps for draft-many-lsr-power-g… Tony Li
- [Green] Re: Next steps for draft-many-lsr-power-g… Carlos Pignataro
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Re: Next steps for draft-many-l… Carlos Pignataro
- [Green] Re: Next steps for draft-many-lsr-power-g… Tony Li
- [Green] Re: Next steps for draft-many-lsr-power-g… Carlos Pignataro
- [Green] Re: Next steps for draft-many-lsr-power-g… Tony Li
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Re: Next steps for draft-many-l… Joel Halpern
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Re: Next steps for draft-many-l… Robert Raszuk
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Next steps for draft-many-lsr-p… Tony Li
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Next steps for draft-many-lsr-p… Robert Raszuk
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Next steps for draft-many-lsr-p… Tony Li
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Next steps for draft-many-lsr-p… Robert Raszuk
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Next steps for draft-many-lsr-p… Tony Li
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Next steps for draft-many-lsr-p… Tony Li
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Next steps for draft-many-lsr-p… Robert Raszuk
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Next steps for draft-many-lsr-p… Carlos Pignataro
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Next steps for draft-many-lsr-p… Robert Raszuk
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Re: Next steps for draft-many-l… Vishnu Pavan Beeram
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Re: Next steps for draft-many-l… Robert Raszuk
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Next steps for draft-many-lsr-p… Carlos Pignataro
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Re: Next steps for draft-many-l… Bonica, Ron
- [Green] Re: [Lsr] Next steps for draft-many-lsr-p… Colby Barth