Re: [GROW] Comment on draft-iops-grow-bgp-session-culling

Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> Tue, 14 March 2017 11:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: [GROW] Comment on draft-iops-grow-bgp-session-culling
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Tore Anderson wrote:
> In other words: in my opinion, BGP session culling should be considered
> a BCP even in situations where link state signaling and/or BFD is used.
> IP-transit providers should perform culling towards their customers
> ahead of maintenance works. Direct peers, likewise.

probably not much need if bfd is used because that would operate
route-to-router.  Link state signaling is problematic because it's not
necessarily transferred to all the devices that need to see the link
state changes.

> IXPs aren't at all special regarding the fundamental need for session
> culling, only in the method by which it is accomplished (i.e., using
> layer-2 ACLs).

Correct, but for direct peers over PNIs, etc, the operator will usually
have control over the bgp session.  What we're talking about here is a
situation where there is an intermediate operator which has no direct
admin control over bgp sessions.

Nick