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Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

Paolo Lucente <paolo@ntt.net> Mon, 22 January 2024 02:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)
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Hi Mukul,

I would like to express +1 to Shunwan request. A few more thoughts, 
including where the request comes from are captured in this previous 
email thread about errata 7703: 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/grow/nQm-lyKSZSaSdIhUQlTa6n-U0tA/

Paolo


On 20/01/2024 03:45, Zhuangshunwan wrote:
> Hi Mukul,
> 
> I have read draft-ietf-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats-00 and I think the 
> description in your document is very clear and accurate. I think it's 
> great to explicitly define Stat Type 7 and Stat Type 9 as counters for 
> rib-in-pre-policy and also define counters for rib-in-post-policy.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Shunwan
> 
> *From:*Mukul Srivastava [mailto:msri=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 19, 2024 11:01 PM
> *To:* Zhuangshunwan <zhuangshunwan@huawei.com>; Job Snijders 
> <job@fastly.com>; grow@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for 
> draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)
> 
> Hi Shunwan
> 
> I looked at your proposed counter and I feel that they are already 
> present in RFC 7854 for rib-in-pre-policy.
> 
> Copying it here from RFC 7854.
> 
> *4.8 <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7854.html#section-4.8>.  Stats 
> Reports*
> 
>    o  Stat Type = 7: (64-bit Gauge) Number of routes in Adj-RIBs-In.
> 
>     o  Stat Type = 9: Number of routes in per-AFI/SAFI Adj-RIB-In.  The
> 
>        value is structured as: 2-byte Address Family Identifier (AFI),
> 
>        1-byte Subsequent Address Family Identifier (SAFI), followed by a
> 
>        64-bit Gauge.
> 
> For rib-in-post-policy, we don’t have those counters and can be added. I 
> will add them.
> 
> Let me know if you have any further comments.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Mukul
> 
> Juniper Business Use Only
> 
> *From: *Mukul Srivastava <msri@juniper.net <mailto:msri@juniper.net>>
> *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:15 AM
> *To: *Zhuangshunwan <zhuangshunwan=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org 
> <mailto:zhuangshunwan=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>>, Job Snijders 
> <job=40fastly.com@dmarc.ietf.org 
> <mailto:job=40fastly.com@dmarc.ietf.org>>, grow@ietf.org 
> <mailto:grow@ietf.org> <grow@ietf.org <mailto:grow@ietf.org>>
> *Subject: *Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for 
> draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)
> 
> Thanks for the comments.  I will go over it and update docs accordingly.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Mukul
> 
> *From: *GROW <grow-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:grow-bounces@ietf.org>> on 
> behalf of Zhuangshunwan <zhuangshunwan=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org 
> <mailto:zhuangshunwan=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>>
> *Date: *Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 3:27 AM
> *To: *Zhuangshunwan <zhuangshunwan=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org 
> <mailto:zhuangshunwan=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>>, Job Snijders 
> <job=40fastly.com@dmarc.ietf.org 
> <mailto:job=40fastly.com@dmarc.ietf.org>>, grow@ietf.org 
> <mailto:grow@ietf.org> <grow@ietf.org <mailto:grow@ietf.org>>
> *Subject: *Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for 
> draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)
> 
> [External Email. Be cautious of content]
> 
> 
> Hi GROW,
> 
> I've noticed this errata report under discussion: 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/grow/g1d3cJhNMuSnchQiqX0lkQCnQkk/__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!GcBz8ozUcDW3DcFms2m15hiJUwCN7bBXSR3wS_UdvGYS603ApxdNMc2XqFW9jpNp1XgyHbKnvQqlauvtUtmAov7CA-Pm$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/grow/g1d3cJhNMuSnchQiqX0lkQCnQkk/__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!GcBz8ozUcDW3DcFms2m15hiJUwCN7bBXSR3wS_UdvGYS603ApxdNMc2XqFW9jpNp1XgyHbKnvQqlauvtUtmAov7CA-Pm$>
> If GROW agrees that "the L flag is only applied to Route Monitoring 
> messages", to distinguish between pre-policy statistics and post-policy 
> statistics of the Adj-RIBs-In, I think the following types could be 
> added for RIB-IN Statistics:
> 
> *  Type = TBD8: (64-bit Gauge) Number of routes in pre-policy Adj-RIBs-In.
> *  Type = TBD9: (64-bit Gauge) Number of routes in post-policy Adj-RIBs-In.
> *  Type = TBD10: Number of routes in per-AFI/SAFI pre-policy 
> Adj-RIB-In.  The value is structured as: 2-byte Address Family 
> Identifier (AFI), 1-byte Subsequent Address Family Identifier (SAFI), 
> followed by a 64-bit Gauge.
> *  Type = TBD11: Number of routes in per-AFI/SAFI post-policy 
> Adj-RIB-In.  The value is structured as: 2-byte Address Family 
> Identifier (AFI), 1-byte Subsequent Address Family Identifier (SAFI), 
> followed by a 64-bit Gauge.
> 
> Waiting to hear your opinions, thanks.
> 
> Best regards,
> Shunwan
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: GROW [mailto:grow-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:grow-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf 
> Of Zhuangshunwan
>> Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 3:15 PM
>> To: Job Snijders <job=40fastly.com@dmarc.ietf.org 
> <mailto:job=40fastly.com@dmarc.ietf.org>>; grow@ietf.org 
> <mailto:grow@ietf.org>
>> Subject: Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for
>> draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)
>>
>>
>> Hi Job, GROW,
>>
>> I have read the draft and support its adoption.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Shunwan
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: GROW [mailto:grow-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:grow-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf 
> Of Job Snijders
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 11:49 PM
>> > To: grow@ietf.org <mailto:grow@ietf.org>
>> > Subject: [GROW] Working Group Call for
>> > draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)
>> >
>> > Dear GROW,
>> >
>> > The author of draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats asked whether the GROW
>> > working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft.
>> >
>> > This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this
>> > internet-draft should be adopted.
>> >
>> > Title: Definition For New BMP Statistics Type
>> > Abstract:
>> >   RFC 7854 defined different BMP statistics messages types to observe
>> >   interesting events that occur on the router.  This document updates
>> >   RFC 7854 by adding new statistics type.
>> >
>> > The Internet-Draft can be found here:
>> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats-00.h__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!GcBz8ozUcDW3DcFms2m15hiJUwCN7bBXSR3wS_UdvGYS603ApxdNMc2XqFW9jpNp1XgyHbKnvQqlauvtUtmAohLYbTUy$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats-00.h__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!GcBz8ozUcDW3DcFms2m15hiJUwCN7bBXSR3wS_UdvGYS603ApxdNMc2XqFW9jpNp1XgyHbKnvQqlauvtUtmAohLYbTUy$>
>> > tml
>> >
>> > *** NOTE *** This draft has nothing other than BMP code point requests
>> > for counters. If adoption fails, the authors can go off an request FCFS
>> instead.
>> >
>> > Please share with the mailing list if you would like this work to be
>> > adopted by GROW, are willing to review and/or otherwise contribute to
>> this draft!
>> >
>> > WG Adoption call ends January 6th, 2024.
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > Job / Chris
>> > GROW co-chairs
>> >
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