Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103

Christopher Morrow <christopher.morrow@gmail.com> Mon, 05 November 2018 02:16 UTC

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Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2018 13:16:31 +1100
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Subject: Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103
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On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 1:13 PM Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research
Dept. NW) <guyunan@huawei.com> wrote:

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> Hi Chris,
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> That one will do.
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Terrific, uploaded to the materials site (and agenda adjusted)


> Yunan
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> *From: *Christopher Morrow
> *To: *Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW)<
> guyunan@huawei.com>
> *Cc: *grow<grow@ietf.org>;grow-chairs<grow-chairs@ietf.org>" >;grow-ads<
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> *Subject: *Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103
> *Time: *2018-11-05 09:10:05
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> Yunan, was this set of slides what you wanted to present for today?
> Did you have alternate slides?
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> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 1:11 AM Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research
> Dept. NW) <guyunan@huawei.com> wrote:
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>> Dear Grow members,
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>> We have attached the slides to better illustrate our draft:
>> “draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection-00”. We basically explained the
>> ideas of 1. The conventional route leak PROTECTION methods; 2. the intra-AS
>> route leak PROTECTION method -- using BGP open policy method proposed by
>> “draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-policy-03”, and 3. our intra-AS route leak
>> DETECTION method.
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>> We believe that our method provides a route leak self-checking method for
>> a single ISP, which is complementary to any existing route leak protection
>> methods as a way of validation.
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>> Although we don’t have a slot for discussion tomorrow at the meeting, we
>> do hope to solicit more comments.
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>> Thanks.
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>> Yunan
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>> *From:* GROW [mailto:grow-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Guyunan
>> (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW)
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:28 AM
>> *To:* Christopher Morrow <christopher.morrow@gmail.com>; grow@ietf.org
>> grow@ietf.org <grow@ietf.org>
>> *Cc:* <grow-chairs@ietf.org> <grow-chairs@ietf.org>;
>> grow-ads@tools.ietf.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103
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>> *Hi Chris, *
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>> *Sure! We’d also like to solicit some comments on our draft. *
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>> *Hi, Grow folks,*
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>> *This draft proposes a method for detecting BGP route leaks using BMP. We
>> mainly identified the requirements and concerns for the route leak
>> detection, such as implementation dependency on other ISPs, detection
>> accuracy and so on. We feel that BMP might be a good choice for the
>> detection information collection with minor extension work while meeting
>> these requirements. *
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>> *Please, feel free to comment on either the motivation or solution.*
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>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection-00.txt
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>> *Yunan*
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>> *From:* Christopher Morrow [mailto:christopher.morrow@gmail.com
>> <christopher.morrow@gmail.com>]
>> *Sent:* 2018年10月24日 9:46
>> *To:* Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW) <
>> guyunan@huawei.com>
>> *Cc:* grow@ietf.org grow@ietf.org <grow@ietf.org>; <grow-chairs@ietf.org>
>> <grow-chairs@ietf.org>; grow-ads@tools.ietf.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103
>>
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>> Can we get some discussion on-list prior please?
>>
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>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:41 PM Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research
>> Dept. NW) <guyunan@huawei.com> wrote:
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>> *Hi Chris,*
>>
>>
>>
>> *I’d like to request a 15 min discussion for
>> “draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection-00”*
>>
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>> *Thanks.*
>>
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>> *Yunan*
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>> A new version of I-D, draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection-00.txt
>>
>> has been successfully submitted by Shunwan Zhuang and posted to the IETF
>> repository.
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>> Name:             draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection
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>> Revision:         00
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>> Title:                BMP for BGP Route Leak Detection
>>
>> Document date:         2018-10-22
>>
>> Group:            Individual Submission
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>> Pages:             8
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>> URL:
>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection-00.txt
>>
>> Status:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection/
>>
>> Htmlized:
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection-00
>>
>> Htmlized:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection
>>
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>> Abstract:
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>>    According to RFC7908 [RFC7908], Route leaks refer to case that the
>>
>>    delivery range of route advertisements is beyond the expected range.
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>>    For many current security protection solutions, the ISPs (Internet
>>
>>    Service Providers) are focusing on finding ways to detect the
>>
>>    happening of route leaks.  However, the real-time route leak
>>
>>    detection if any occurs is important as well.  This document extends
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>>    the BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP) [RFC7854] to provide a routing
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>>    security scheme suitable for ISPs to detect BGP route leaks within
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>>    their own networks.
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>> *From:* GROW [mailto:grow-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Christopher
>> Morrow
>> *Sent:* 2018年10月24日 4:41
>> *To:* grow@ietf.org grow@ietf.org <grow@ietf.org>; <grow-chairs@ietf.org>
>> <grow-chairs@ietf.org>; grow-ads@tools.ietf.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103
>>
>>
>>
>> Howdy Grow Folks... topics for discussion?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:16 PM Christopher Morrow <
>> christopher.morrow@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Howdy GrowFolks:
>>
>>
>>
>> Please send along agenda requests as time permits... We are planning to
>> meet in Bangkok, unless no one can find agenda topics? :)
>>
>>
>>
>> -chris
>>
>>