Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103
Christopher Morrow <christopher.morrow@gmail.com> Mon, 05 November 2018 02:16 UTC
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Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2018 13:16:31 +1100
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Subject: Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103
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On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 1:13 PM Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW) <guyunan@huawei.com> wrote: > > > Hi Chris, > > That one will do. > > > Terrific, uploaded to the materials site (and agenda adjusted) > Yunan > > *From: *Christopher Morrow > *To: *Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW)< > guyunan@huawei.com> > *Cc: *grow<grow@ietf.org>;grow-chairs<grow-chairs@ietf.org>" >;grow-ads< > <grow-chairs@ietf.org%3E>grow-ads@tools.ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 > *Time: *2018-11-05 09:10:05 > > Yunan, was this set of slides what you wanted to present for today? > Did you have alternate slides? > > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 1:11 AM Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research > Dept. NW) <guyunan@huawei.com> wrote: > >> Dear Grow members, >> >> >> >> We have attached the slides to better illustrate our draft: >> “draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection-00”. We basically explained the >> ideas of 1. The conventional route leak PROTECTION methods; 2. the intra-AS >> route leak PROTECTION method -- using BGP open policy method proposed by >> “draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-policy-03”, and 3. our intra-AS route leak >> DETECTION method. >> >> >> >> We believe that our method provides a route leak self-checking method for >> a single ISP, which is complementary to any existing route leak protection >> methods as a way of validation. >> >> >> >> Although we don’t have a slot for discussion tomorrow at the meeting, we >> do hope to solicit more comments. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> Yunan >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* GROW [mailto:grow-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Guyunan >> (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW) >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:28 AM >> *To:* Christopher Morrow <christopher.morrow@gmail.com>; grow@ietf.org >> grow@ietf.org <grow@ietf.org> >> *Cc:* <grow-chairs@ietf.org> <grow-chairs@ietf.org>; >> grow-ads@tools.ietf.org >> *Subject:* Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 >> >> >> >> *Hi Chris, * >> >> >> >> *Sure! We’d also like to solicit some comments on our draft. * >> >> >> >> *Hi, Grow folks,* >> >> >> >> *This draft proposes a method for detecting BGP route leaks using BMP. We >> mainly identified the requirements and concerns for the route leak >> detection, such as implementation dependency on other ISPs, detection >> accuracy and so on. We feel that BMP might be a good choice for the >> detection information collection with minor extension work while meeting >> these requirements. * >> >> >> >> *Please, feel free to comment on either the motivation or solution.* >> >> >> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection-00.txt >> >> >> >> *Yunan* >> >> >> >> *From:* Christopher Morrow [mailto:christopher.morrow@gmail.com >> <christopher.morrow@gmail.com>] >> *Sent:* 2018年10月24日 9:46 >> *To:* Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW) < >> guyunan@huawei.com> >> *Cc:* grow@ietf.org grow@ietf.org <grow@ietf.org>; <grow-chairs@ietf.org> >> <grow-chairs@ietf.org>; grow-ads@tools.ietf.org >> *Subject:* Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 >> >> >> >> Can we get some discussion on-list prior please? >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:41 PM Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research >> Dept. NW) <guyunan@huawei.com> wrote: >> >> *Hi Chris,* >> >> >> >> *I’d like to request a 15 min discussion for >> “draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection-00”* >> >> >> >> *Thanks.* >> >> >> >> *Yunan* >> >> >> >> >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection-00.txt >> >> has been successfully submitted by Shunwan Zhuang and posted to the IETF >> repository. >> >> >> >> Name: draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection >> >> Revision: 00 >> >> Title: BMP for BGP Route Leak Detection >> >> Document date: 2018-10-22 >> >> Group: Individual Submission >> >> Pages: 8 >> >> URL: >> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection-00.txt >> >> Status: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection/ >> >> Htmlized: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection-00 >> >> Htmlized: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gu-grow-bmp-route-leak-detection >> >> >> >> >> >> Abstract: >> >> According to RFC7908 [RFC7908], Route leaks refer to case that the >> >> delivery range of route advertisements is beyond the expected range. >> >> For many current security protection solutions, the ISPs (Internet >> >> Service Providers) are focusing on finding ways to detect the >> >> happening of route leaks. However, the real-time route leak >> >> detection if any occurs is important as well. This document extends >> >> the BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP) [RFC7854] to provide a routing >> >> security scheme suitable for ISPs to detect BGP route leaks within >> >> their own networks. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* GROW [mailto:grow-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Christopher >> Morrow >> *Sent:* 2018年10月24日 4:41 >> *To:* grow@ietf.org grow@ietf.org <grow@ietf.org>; <grow-chairs@ietf.org> >> <grow-chairs@ietf.org>; grow-ads@tools.ietf.org >> *Subject:* Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 >> >> >> >> Howdy Grow Folks... topics for discussion? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:16 PM Christopher Morrow < >> christopher.morrow@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Howdy GrowFolks: >> >> >> >> Please send along agenda requests as time permits... We are planning to >> meet in Bangkok, unless no one can find agenda topics? :) >> >> >> >> -chris >> >>
- [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Christopher Morrow
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Christopher Morrow
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW)
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Christopher Morrow
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW)
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
- [GROW] Comments on draft-ietf-idr-route-leak-dete… Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Paolo Lucente
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Christopher Morrow
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Christopher Morrow
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Randy Bush
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Job Snijders
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW)
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Christopher Morrow
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Christopher Morrow
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Christopher Morrow
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Christopher Morrow
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW)
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Christopher Morrow
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Paolo Lucente
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Christopher Morrow
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Paolo Lucente
- Re: [GROW] Agenda Slot Requests - IETF 103 Christopher Morrow