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Re: [GROW] draft-iops-grow-bgp-session-culling-00

Christopher Morrow <christopher.morrow@gmail.com> Tue, 14 March 2017 18:29 UTC

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From: Christopher Morrow <christopher.morrow@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 14:29:01 -0400
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Subject: Re: [GROW] draft-iops-grow-bgp-session-culling-00
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we seem to be having quite the discussion on this document, ought it be a
WG draft ? should we vote to adopt? :)



On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 04:49:10PM +0100, Job Snijders wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 04:41:06PM +0100, Gert Doering wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 03:07:32PM +0000, bruno.decraene@orange.com
> wrote:
> > > > On a side note, I'd be interesting to know why reducing the impact
> > > > of the maintenance using gshut is not considered as worth it, while
> > > > it is for culling. Especially since the benefit of the latter is
> > > > 90 second (and configurable)  while the former is minutes (and not
> > > > configurable).
> > >
> > > How's the IXP operator going to introduce a gshut message into a BGP
> > > session between IXP customer A and IXP customer B?
> >
> > an IXP can't, and I am not under the impression that Bruno was
> > suggestion to do so. I took his comments as applicable to section 2.1
> >
> > this is why the proposed draft contains two angles: one for IXPs and one
> > for ISPs, each with their different nuances.
>
> Indeed, for a direct ISP-ISP link, and the maintenance being controlled
> by one of the peering parties, gshut would be a useful approach (if
> it's known that the other party has deployed it).
>
> Since the title of the draft is "session-culling" it feels somewhat
> out of scope to go more into detail on gshut, but a reference might
> be useful.
>
> Gert Doering
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