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Re: [GROW] draft-ss-grow-rpki-as-cones-00

Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Mon, 21 May 2018 11:28 UTC

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 13:28:49 +0200
From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
To: Job Snijders <job@ntt.net>
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Subject: Re: [GROW] draft-ss-grow-rpki-as-cones-00
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Hi,

On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 02:41:06PM +0200, Job Snijders wrote:
> I???d like to ask for a call for working group adoption for this document. At
> the RIPE 76 Routing Working Group session there seemed to be interest in
> this topic.

I'm far from understanding all the potential implications, but for the
usage scenario "I want to use RPKI to build IRR-like filters towards
my customers' BGP sessions" this seems to provide me the tools.

As in:

  - query customer policy object for as-cone
  - (recursively) gather ASes from as-cone object(s)
  - query AS policy objects to see whether the announcement is supposed
    to travel towards $customer->$me at all
  - build filter that is much more precise than "grab AS-Set from IRRDB
    which can contain anything"

(yes, the AS-Cone can also "contain anything", so it needs to go hand in 
hand with the policy object to be more useful than the AS-Set RPSL object)

Gert Doering
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